rec.autos.simulators

by **checkmysignat..** » Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:33:17

I forgot the name, but Erik? You said you had the PS2 Driving
Force (blue grips with extra buttons). I lost the thread where you
said that it worked with the PC. I'd like to know a bit more about
this wheel. Does all the buttons (d-pad, start, select etc),
force-feedback, split-axis etc work too? Did you have to do a
registry hack to get it working, that's what I heard. I also read
that you can't get split-axis. I'd like to know before I plonk $100
on it. If you (or anyone else with this wheel) could let me know,
it'd be great. Thanks.

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by **elrik** » Mon, 14 Oct 2002 14:00:36

You needed a reg hack before the release of the newer version of there
wingman software. I am currently using Ver 4.20.167 but there might be an
even newer one.

They added "unofficial" support because so many people asked for it. They
call it "unofficial" because they won't give any tech support for it (ie.
you can't phone and complain if it gives you problems) but it functions
exactly the same as it does when driving my Wingman Rumble Pad which it
supports "Officially". (along with most of their other PC pad and wheel
products.

With this software there is complete support for every button and D pad on
the wheel and split and combined axis are no problem. You have sensitivity
controls on all four axis as well.

You can even program the buttons to emulate keyboard sequences.

Elrikk

PS There are better wheels (and more expensive) out there but for my needs
(manual control of acceleration and braking) it is the best I have come
across.

by **Don** » Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:53:59

Don't know about the Driving Force, but my Thrustmaster NASCAR Pro Digital
FF works with the PS2 (acording to Thrustmaster), and it works beautifully
on my PC running XP Pro. Seperate axis, too. Cost about $80 from
www.newegg.com.

Gunner

by **checkmysignat..** » Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:21:54

Nice to see I don't have to mess the with registry.

Yeah, I wno't be expecting support from the techs.

I was wanting to get the LWFFGP, but since I heard the LWDF works with
PC and has a boat load of buttons, the lap attachment, better paddle
shifters, it seems like a better buy.

I have a few more questions.

Do you use the lap attachment? How is it?

I have the Act Labs Performance pedals, so I won't be using the ones
included with the LWDF. Do you have to have the pedals attached to
the unit inorder for it to work? In other words, is the USB, power
cord attached to the pedal unit.

--
karkrazy AT softhome DOT net
http://karkrazy.m4driving.sm

by **Mike Beaucham** » Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:45:03

FWIW, My Thrustmaster Ferarri FF wheel worked Flawlessly with Turismo 3 on
the PS2. Totally plug and play. split axis and everything too as far as I
can remember.

Mike
http://mikebeauchamp.com

> >You needed a reg hack before the release of the newer version of there
> >wingman software. I am currently using Ver 4.20.167 but there might be
an
> >even newer one.

> Nice to see I don't have to mess the with registry.

> >They added "unofficial" support because so many people asked for it.
They
> >call it "unofficial" because they won't give any tech support for it (ie.
> >you can't phone and complain if it gives you problems) but it functions
> >exactly the same as it does when driving my Wingman Rumble Pad which it
> >supports "Officially". (along with most of their other PC pad and wheel
> >products.

> Yeah, I wno't be expecting support from the techs.

> >With this software there is complete support for every button and D pad
on
> >the wheel and split and combined axis are no problem. You have
sensitivity
> >controls on all four axis as well.

> >You can even program the buttons to emulate keyboard sequences.

> >Elrikk

> >PS There are better wheels (and more expensive) out there but for my
needs
> >(manual control of acceleration and braking) it is the best I have come
> >across.

> I was wanting to get the LWFFGP, but since I heard the LWDF works with
> PC and has a boat load of buttons, the lap attachment, better paddle
> shifters, it seems like a better buy.

> I have a few more questions.

> Do you use the lap attachment? How is it?

> I have the Act Labs Performance pedals, so I won't be using the ones
> included with the LWDF. Do you have to have the pedals attached to
> the unit inorder for it to work? In other words, is the USB, power
> cord attached to the pedal unit.

> --
> karkrazy AT softhome DOT net
> http://karkrazy.m4driving.sm

by **Andreas Nystro** » Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:41:35

Hi!
Can you tell me if the paddleshifters where actually two on each side?
I tested a wheel where the paddleshifters were splitted, but cant remember
if it was this wheel. If so, are they completely separeted (4 different
paddles), or do the 2 on each side work the same?

Also, are they analog? (since PS2 uses analogbuttons)
That could be great if so.. gearing on the high paddles, and analog clutch
on the lower :)

> > I forgot the name, but Erik? You said you had the PS2 Driving
> > Force (blue grips with extra buttons). I lost the thread where you
> > said that it worked with the PC. I'd like to know a bit more about
> > this wheel. Does all the buttons (d-pad, start, select etc),
> > force-feedback, split-axis etc work too? Did you have to do a
> > registry hack to get it working, that's what I heard. I also read
> > that you can't get split-axis. I'd like to know before I plonk $100
> > on it. If you (or anyone else with this wheel) could let me know,
> > it'd be great. Thanks.

> > --
> > karkrazy AT softhome DOT net

> You needed a reg hack before the release of the newer version of there
> wingman software. I am currently using Ver 4.20.167 but there might be an
> even newer one.

> They added "unofficial" support because so many people asked for it. They
> call it "unofficial" because they won't give any tech support for it (ie.
> you can't phone and complain if it gives you problems) but it functions
> exactly the same as it does when driving my Wingman Rumble Pad which it
> supports "Officially". (along with most of their other PC pad and wheel
> products.

> With this software there is complete support for every button and D pad on
> the wheel and split and combined axis are no problem. You have
sensitivity
> controls on all four axis as well.

> You can even program the buttons to emulate keyboard sequences.

> Elrikk

> PS There are better wheels (and more expensive) out there but for my needs
> (manual control of acceleration and braking) it is the best I have come
> across.

by **Steve Smit** » Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:06:47

The TM NASCAR Pro (or its clone, the Ferrari FF wheel) works perfectly with
Gran Turisno 3, but alas, not with many other PS2 racing games.

> Don't know about the Driving Force, but my Thrustmaster NASCAR Pro Digital
> FF works with the PS2 (acording to Thrustmaster), and it works beautifully
> on my PC running XP Pro. Seperate axis, too. Cost about $80 from
> www.newegg.com.

> Gunner

> > I forgot the name, but Erik? You said you had the PS2 Driving
> > Force (blue grips with extra buttons). I lost the thread where you
> > said that it worked with the PC. I'd like to know a bit more about
> > this wheel. Does all the buttons (d-pad, start, select etc),
> > force-feedback, split-axis etc work too? Did you have to do a
> > registry hack to get it working, that's what I heard. I also read
> > that you can't get split-axis. I'd like to know before I plonk $100
> > on it. If you (or anyone else with this wheel) could let me know,
> > it'd be great. Thanks.

> > --
> > karkrazy AT softhome DOT net
> > http://karkrazy.m4driving.sm

by **elrik** » Tue, 15 Oct 2002 00:03:12

> >You needed a reg hack before the release of the newer version of there
> >wingman software. I am currently using Ver 4.20.167 but there might be
an
> >even newer one.

> Nice to see I don't have to mess the with registry.

> >They added "unofficial" support because so many people asked for it.
They
> >call it "unofficial" because they won't give any tech support for it (ie.
> >you can't phone and complain if it gives you problems) but it functions
> >exactly the same as it does when driving my Wingman Rumble Pad which it
> >supports "Officially". (along with most of their other PC pad and wheel
> >products.

> Yeah, I wno't be expecting support from the techs.

> >With this software there is complete support for every button and D pad
on
> >the wheel and split and combined axis are no problem. You have
sensitivity
> >controls on all four axis as well.

> >You can even program the buttons to emulate keyboard sequences.

> >Elrikk

> >PS There are better wheels (and more expensive) out there but for my
needs
> >(manual control of acceleration and braking) it is the best I have come
> >across.

> I was wanting to get the LWFFGP, but since I heard the LWDF works with
> PC and has a boat load of buttons, the lap attachment, better paddle
> shifters, it seems like a better buy.

> I have a few more questions.

> Do you use the lap attachment? How is it?

> I have the Act Labs Performance pedals, so I won't be using the ones
> included with the LWDF. Do you have to have the pedals attached to
> the unit inorder for it to work? In other words, is the USB, power
> cord attached to the pedal unit.

> --
> karkrazy AT softhome DOT net

I've never had the pedals attached to the wheel (they are still in the box)
so I guess the answer is no. ;o)

Elrikk

by **elrik** » Tue, 15 Oct 2002 00:25:53

> Hi!
> Can you tell me if the paddleshifters where actually two on each side?
> I tested a wheel where the paddleshifters were splitted, but cant remember
> if it was this wheel. If so, are they completely separeted (4 different
> paddles), or do the 2 on each side work the same?

> Also, are they analog? (since PS2 uses analogbuttons)
> That could be great if so.. gearing on the high paddles, and analog clutch
> on the lower :)

> > > I forgot the name, but Erik? You said you had the PS2 Driving
> > > Force (blue grips with extra buttons). I lost the thread where you
> > > said that it worked with the PC. I'd like to know a bit more about
> > > this wheel. Does all the buttons (d-pad, start, select etc),
> > > force-feedback, split-axis etc work too? Did you have to do a
> > > registry hack to get it working, that's what I heard. I also read
> > > that you can't get split-axis. I'd like to know before I plonk $100
> > > on it. If you (or anyone else with this wheel) could let me know,
> > > it'd be great. Thanks.

> > > --
> > > karkrazy AT softhome DOT net

> > You needed a reg hack before the release of the newer version of there
> > wingman software. I am currently using Ver 4.20.167 but there might be
an
> > even newer one.

> > They added "unofficial" support because so many people asked for it.
They
> > call it "unofficial" because they won't give any tech support for it
(ie.
> > you can't phone and complain if it gives you problems) but it functions
> > exactly the same as it does when driving my Wingman Rumble Pad which it
> > supports "Officially". (along with most of their other PC pad and wheel
> > products.

> > With this software there is complete support for every button and D pad
on
> > the wheel and split and combined axis are no problem. You have
> sensitivity
> > controls on all four axis as well.

> > You can even program the buttons to emulate keyboard sequences.

> > Elrikk

> > PS There are better wheels (and more expensive) out there but for my
needs
> > (manual control of acceleration and braking) it is the best I have come
> > across.

Before the Logitech Driving Force I had a Thrustmaster 360 Modena wheel.

Two of the paddles are analog and two are just switches. (better for
shifting)

But the analog paddles break easily. Broke the springs in the right paddle
on 3 different Modenas. They tended to last just a couple of weeks before
dying.

Much happier with the Logitech.

Elrikk

by **Galle** » Tue, 15 Oct 2002 06:58:31

words of wisdom:

You can refurbished ones from http://store.yahoo.com/justdeals/playstation2.html
I got one from them on auction for $40 including shipping. It'll be here
tomorrow. Here's their eBay store:
http://www.stores.ebay.com/thebesthitechdealsonline/plistings/list/al...

--
"Life is what you experience between racing games"
Galley

by **checkmysignat..** » Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:53:18

On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:58:31 -0400, Galley

>You can refurbished ones from http://store.yahoo.com/justdeals/playstation2.html
>I got one from them on auction for $40 including shipping. It'll be here
>tomorrow. Here's their eBay store:
>http://www.stores.ebay.com/thebesthitechdealsonline/plistings/list/al...

It'd be great if you could post back here and tell us how you like it.
Thanks.

--
karkrazy AT softhome DOT net
http://karkrazy.m4driving.sm

by **Galle** » Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:45:10

words of wisdom:

Will do. I am picking it up in the morning.

--
"Life is what you experience between racing games"
Galley

by **Galle** » Sun, 20 Oct 2002 13:03:45

words of wisdom:

>On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:58:31 -0400, Galley

>>You can refurbished ones from http://store.yahoo.com/justdeals/playstation2.html
>>I got one from them on auction for $40 including shipping. It'll be here
>>tomorrow. Here's their eBay store:
>>http://www.stores.ebay.com/thebesthitechdealsonline/plistings/list/al...

>It'd be great if you could post back here and tell us how you like it.
>Thanks.

The wheel arrived in great condition. Everything was wrapped in bubble wrap.
Since it was refurbished, it did not come in the original box, but it does
include the full manufacturer's warranty.
The wheel isn't so hot on Gran Turismo 3. It seems to over-correct too much.
GT3 was designed for the Dual Shock II, anyway. The wheel kicks ass with Need
For Speed and Ferrari F355. (actually the wheel is almost REQUIRED for F355 as
it does not offer analog gas/brake with the Dual Shock II). I have not tried it
out on the PC yet, but I imagine it will work just fine once I install the
drivers.
The only other wheel I have owned was the original Logitech Wingman Formula
Force. That wheel was superb with Viper Racing. The Driving Force's feedback
just isn't as smooth, probably since its gear-driven, unlike the LWFF. I
wouldn't spend $100 on the Driving Force, but for $40, it is well worth it.
Justdeals.com has plenty of these up for auction, so perhaps you could find a
bargain like I did.

--
"Life is what you experience between racing games"
Galley

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