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For those that don't know me, you do now.

An avid online GPL'er (thanks to the introduction Herr Seery all that
time ago) and a perhaps misplaced loyalty to the beatiful Red Car, I
am a little worried...........

why?, you ask.............

Well.I 'tried' an F2 race the other day.......what a load of cack.....
....afterall, that was ALL was on offer on VROC.  Ijust cannot see the
enjoyment of racing round a half speed!! It WAS at Spa, and I managed
to light, smoke and extingush a fag...as I entered the str8 and just
before I reached Masta !!!

Now, I know that there are a few people out there, who just LOVE the
F2 scene..........but WHY? The 'closer-racing' adage is a little worn,
but is there any other reason, except that one and the other, "F1 is
just too unrealistic........" that could possibly help me understand??

As for F3...don't even go there!!

Anyways.......

Keep healthy all..........

Nosher

Seriously Phil (was it?), you're missing the point completely.

Spa is not a good venue for this type of racing... the***pit workload is
indeed fairly low and without the buttclenching speed of the F1 to get the
adrenaline flowing, it can produce a false representation of the "scene".
*** F2 and F3 racers will still find it challenging as one needs to run
a very clean line on the track to get the good laptimes.

There's two main reasons behind racing the lower formulea online:

1) They are easier to drive (then again, this entails having to drive them
closer to the edge to be competitive), allowing more of your concentration
to be devoted to racing and SA.

2) The speed and speed differences are lower so it's easier to deal with the
phenomena associated with online racing (latency, warping, slomo/FF,
etc...).

I touched on a 3rd issue for the purist among us. Not having the power to
"correct" slight mistakes forces you to drive a clean, smooth line. Seeing
as every mph lost takes forever to get back (especially in F3) you can not
just chuck it at a corner, drive through the resulting mess and still expect
a reasonable time (you can't even do that in F1 at some levels of
competition).

Needless to say I like the lower formulae, I drive in Mark Seery's F3 league
and find challenge and e***ment in most everywhere we go (except super
speedways, they get really boring once you get dropped out of the draft
-( ). Don't get me wrong, I like F1 racing too, but you need a very good
bunch of sensible and talented drivers to have a good race.

Cheers,

Jan.
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I believe one of the main attractions of F2 aficionados is the general
atmosphere of the F2 community. There appears to be far less
of the " I will win this race on the first lap, in Turn 1 " lunacy
that is so prevalent in online F1 events.  It appears the F2
contestants are happy to sacrifice the thrill of the F1 cars to
participate in events that actually resemble races.

Steve Smith's F2 Superguide says it best:

" There are those among us in the virtual racing community who believe
the highest level of samadhi in Papyrus' immortal Grand Prix Legends
is not to be found in the Formula 1 cars--whose raw power and ragged
control seem as prehistoric as the troglodytic Unlimited Hydros in
powerboat racing--but in the grace and balance of the Formula 2 cars
(called "Advanced Trainers" in the game due to some obscure legal
beef, just as the doughty little Formula 3s are elliptically referred
to as "Novice Trainers"). It wasn't supposed to be this way."

" The F2s aren't really trainers at all, but superb racers in their
own right. Mastering the welterweight F2s will in no way prepare you
for a title bout with the Neanderthal F1s, but they will teach you the
art of motor racing without the excess baggage of too much power and
too little car control. The F2s may not be as spectacular as the F1s,
but by the same token, F2 racing does not attract the grandstanders,
the show-offs, or those annoying thrill-kills who like to spoil
everybody else's sport by blasting around the track the wrong way
taking out all the serious racers. I won't say the denizens of F2 are
a bunch of mincing aesthetes, but they're a bit more refined than the
ego-poisoned bullies who like to throw their weight around in F1
events. Like they say, if a little is good, a lot isn't necessarily
better."

Amen.

Wouldn't think of it. Go here instead:

http://www.simracing.com/guides/f2superguide/index.shtml

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a m b i e n t  a t  m i n d s p r i n g  d o t  c o m

Long time no see me old mukka ;-)

Hehe. I used to stuff you in my F1 Cooper. Are ya scared of being whipped in
the ***cats? <G>

Cya soon mate

MS

So what laptimes were you doing, Phil? Maybe you just didn't try hard
enough.

Personally I love the F2 at Spa even without a fag.

Bye,
Leo

Is Jan and Andy still about perchance........

....oh, and anytime mate,,,,,,,,,,,,,no longer the complete rookie I
ONCE was !! <G>

Warmest regards my friend!

Nosh.

Now THAT is a little unfair. Does that apply to ALL F1 advocates?  I
have yet won a race at Turn 1 !!! You obviously kick around the wrong
part of the GPL F1 community, m8.

Thanks, I'll take a look..

Regards
Nosher.

Jan.
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Eldred
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Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
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Jan.
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Some of us still remember that race at the Ring <vbeg>

Cheers,
Richard