rec.autos.simulators

Doh! Exit speeds are slower out of Curva Grande and First Lesmos, but boy!!
do you save tons of time in the entrance and mid-corner. Anyway, I'm totally
talentless; I still can't break 1:26, even using the (newly rediscovered)
"banking". Is there an optimum setup or marque for this style of self-abuse?
Oh well, at least the second Lesmos still requires a little bit of skill

Michael.

Forgot to say: the simple solution is to require practice or race times only
for handicap counting. That'd be a really telling statistic, wouldn't it?
(The difference in handicap between training vs practice/race PB's.)

Michael.

Hmm, everybody should have the right to HAVE and EXPRESS his opinion
(without
being called a dork or being said of having his head up his ass...), but
you
can very well argue about opinions, that's the whole idea of discussion.

Of course, some level of mental health is required to be able to argue
about
opinions... I won't mention names, not needed anyway, I guess. ;)

Nice typo there. ;)

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Not a solution, I'm afraid. In a Novice session, you can quite easily
get away with a railriding lap of Monza without breaking the car.

You also have an advantage over Training sessions in that you can
slipstream. Only a small gain, but every little helps. (BTW, some
people object to slipstreamed laps - I don't.)

In any case, you can view *all* a person's times at GPLRank, so you can
compare their Training/Practice/Race times for yourself.

--
David. (GPLRank handicap: -2.05)
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

...

Right, slipstreaming is possible in real life, railriding, well,
hardly isn't. ;-)
Besides, it's hard to get a real good advantage from slipstreaming;
you still have to drive around the car in front of you, which is hard
to do without being bothered later on by your diversion of your
preferred driving line.

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writes:

It wasn't a typo.  I said what I wanted to - I just didn't state it very
well...

What I meant was that there IS a right answer on a fact.  So you can argue and
say "you're wrong".  If someone says "I don't like Ferraris" - that's an
opinion, and you can't say "You're wrong".  You can't argue that...

Eldred
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Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
GPL hcp. +69.95

Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
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A nay-sayer can argue anything. You might try to prove that he lied, because
he in fact DOES like Ferraris. Lying and being wrong are different, of
course. Or are they?

Michael.

    My best time at Monza is a high 1:29. When I get "into the groove" I can
do consistent low-mid 1:30's. It has often been the case that I've
slipstreamed a car down the Rettifilo Centrale straight, or the main
straight (sometimes even both!), and thought, "Yeah, my time for this lap is
going to rock!" But when I find out the lap time, I invariably get
disappointed, "1:30.80? I don't get it!" You're right, it is hard to get a
real good advantage from slipstreaming.

Bendito;

P.S. I won my first novice Grand Prix last night - at Monza! :)

Everybody should be able to suspect an irregularity, if he drives a 1:25 and his
former PB was a 1:30 or so.

Jens

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GPLRank: +1.80

Few days ago I topped my old Ring-Pb of 8:25 with a smashing 8:20.
I was so e***d that I forgot to save the replay :-(

Have to race now until I get a 8:19

Jens

On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:50:26 -0700, Chris Bloom

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http://www.racesimcentral.net/

GPLRank: +1.80

Garth, we don't want you to become ***, so no answer.

Ahem, but a small hint:
In certain corners you can slide along the rail to get round the corner faster.
In no-damage mode the car survives. I tried it once in Monza and could cut off
easily 3 secs without optimizing the ride.

Jens

On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:54:59 -0400, "Garth and Jenny Somerville"

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GPLRank: +1.80

GPLRank is just fine the way it is.  It has such a large membership
because it's so easy to use.  Replay-verified laps would make a nice
option.  For example, verified laps could earn a member a little
smiley face next to his name.  Joe Schmoe might not want his name
ahead of Greger Huttu's unless he has the smiley face.

My point is, don't scare away members by asking for proof.  Encourage
them to prove their laps by making it cool to do so.  The only problem
is, you don't want it to be too cool, or you'll be swamped with
replays.  Perhaps you could automate the task, somehow.
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The likelihood is that the replay requirement would only apply if
someone was submitting a new World Record lap. That wouldn't affect
99.9% of us, and anyone who really can do 1:25 at Monza would be
quite happy to submit a replay (as with Schubi's site) as proof.

AFAIK, there's no move to require everyone to submit replays - we
just couldn't cope with the workload, for one thing.
--
David. (GPLRank handicap: -3.01)
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

writes:

Yeah, but would you even KNOW what his previous PB was?  Out of 600+ drivers, I
don't think so...

Eldred
--
Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
GPL hcp. +69.01

Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
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Oh no, there are lots of tracks that I didn't drive on for more than a
couple
of laps, so if I find the time for them, I'm sure I will improve my lap
times
on those quite a bit (I'm neither a good nor dedicated GPL hotlapper...)

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