rec.autos.simulators

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Also, all the recent message board posts & web articles I've read are
all saying Sega Rally Revo runs at 30 frames per second.

that's very, very disappointing concidering that the developer; Sega
Racing Studio
(aka Sega Driving Studio) said in previous interviews that Revo would
be 60 frames per second.
google it in google or google groups. IGN, EDGE magazine, whatever.
they said 60fps.

It's also disappointing because  Sega Rally 2  *arcade* on Sega's
Model 3 Step 2 arcade hardware ran a solid 60 frames per second, 9
years ago.

Also,  DICE's RalliSport Challenge 1 & 2 on the original Xbox, in more
recent years. solid 60fps arcade-style rally racing at 60fps.   so
far, current generation has sucked for rally games, be they light
simulators or arcade-like.

there's no excuse for Sega Rally Revo, or any racing game (PGR3,
Motorstorm, CMR:DiRT, PGR4)   to be less than 60 frames per second --
be it an Xbox 360, PlayStation3 or PC game.

I am hoping the PC saves Sega Rally Revo with the ability to run it at
60fps on higher-end graphics cards.

There's no excuse for low-framerate games when various arcade hardware
platforms from a decade ago ran games at a consistant 60fps dispite
the fact that graphical detail & resolution were lower.   Framerate is
more important than resolution or graphical detail.

I dunno who to blame here: Sega Racing/Driving Studio for not making
framerate the priority, or Microsoft & Sony for giving their current
console GPUs the absolute MINIMAL pixel fillrate performance (4000
Mpixels / 4 Gpixels per second) which is was not really enough to make
games look THAT much better than PS2/Xbox games at HD resolutions.
or do I blame both.

whatever.

I'm not saying I won't buy Revo, I probably will.  but godamn,  this
is not the old Sega that made smooth-as-butter racing games.

/rant

What wrong with 30 fps, when you watch movies or TV it's less fps than that

30 fps is not smooth enough for serious arcade games. that's why all
the major (quality) racing, fighting, action and sports games are 60
FPS.

 movies or television  which are shown at 24 ~ 30 FPS is not the same
thing, that's comparing apples to oranges.

They could just have done what T10 did for FM2 and cut back on lots of
features to get 60fps.

Yes like smooth edges.

the 30fps framerate very well may have to do with the new ground
deformation system.  I think it's great to have such a feature, but
not at the expense of framerate.  like I said, all the GREAT racing
games by any company, on any platform (arcade hardwares, consoles,
PCs) have all been 60fps.   I would  not say that "nobody should care
about the 30 FPS".
I'm sure a lot of people WON'T care, but many gamers will without a
doubt.    the only hope for those that DO care is the PC version.  If
the graphics engine is scalable enough, I'm keeping my fingers crossed
that 60 FPS will be possible with a powerful-enough CPU/GPU
combination.

It does not matter how powerful PS3's CELL CPU or X360's Xenon CPU is,
as far as multi-core processor usage and floating point performance.
It's the PS3's RSX GPU and X360's Xenos GPU that are responsible for
rendering
/drawing/updating the graphics.  they both have 4 Gpixels/sec of pixel
fillrate. in the case of PS3's RSX; only about 2 Gpixels/sec when 4x
anti-aliasing is used. but even with X360, with 4x AA, the fillrate
doesn't go higher than 4 Gpixels/sec.

With highend PC graphics cards, they have GPUs with fillrates in the 8
to 14 Gpixels/sec range.  even 6 Gpixels/sec in the case of the
GeForce 7800 GTX 256 MB from mid 2005.

That translates into better potential performance/speed framerate.
even though developers do not specifically target the highend PC
graphics cards since PC games have to run on midrange and even
lowerend PCs, I hope Revo is scalable enough to run at 60fps on PC.
so unlike you,  I'm not keeping my fingers crossed that nobody cares
about a 30fps framerate, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the PC
version can run at 60fps.

Assrape do hush, you really don't have a clue!

you really love to show the fact that you don't have a clue, don't
you?