rec.autos.simulators

by **Don Burnett** » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 07:28:14

Hey gang,
I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really looked good when
I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel, I would
appreciate any tips/advise you might have. Mainly what I will be using it
with is N4 and F12001.
Do I have to set up some sort of profile for each game or does each game
automatically utilize it?

Thanks,

Don Burnette

by **Ed Whit** » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 07:55:12

Hi Don, the Wingman Profiler software has a list of games with profiles for
each of them with the most standard features already set up, or you can
create profiles from scratch for any app that you want to use the wheel
with.....WinVROC, say.....I love mine, use the buttons for all kinds of
stuff, autochat, car reset, back to pits, view standings and such. Make sure
you use the v4.11c drivers to correct any centering probs with the wheel,
get 'em at www.wingmanteam.com and good luck at the track. Ed

by **Rob Adam** » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 08:01:24

And, for the completely opposite opinion, I have never used the profiler for
my Logitech Wingman Formula Force (LWFF). So either way works, it just
depends on what your needs are.

You DO have to install the Wingman software to get the Logitech-specific
controller setup in Control Panel, where you can enable split axis, set the
force feedback strength, etc. That is separate from the profiler, which is a
little application that runs and displays a "W" icon in your system tray.

Regardless of whether or not you use the profiler, you're probably going to
have to fiddle with some controller settings in each game to get the wheel
working the way you like it.

> Hi Don, the Wingman Profiler software has a list of games with profiles
for
> each of them with the most standard features already set up, or you can
> create profiles from scratch for any app that you want to use the wheel
> with.....WinVROC, say.....I love mine, use the buttons for all kinds of
> stuff, autochat, car reset, back to pits, view standings and such. Make
sure
> you use the v4.11c drivers to correct any centering probs with the wheel,
> get 'em at www.wingmanteam.com and good luck at the track. Ed

> > Hey gang,
> > I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really looked good
> when
> > I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel, I
> would
> > appreciate any tips/advise you might have. Mainly what I will be using
it
> > with is N4 and F12001.
> > Do I have to set up some sort of profile for each game or does each game
> > automatically utilize it?

> > Thanks,

> > Don Burnette

by **Ice** » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 09:04:28

> Hey gang,
> I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really looked good
when
> I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel, I
would
> appreciate any tips/advise you might have.

Wear gloves, or your thumbs will be black! (mine are :) But it's a great
wheel, I have to admit.

Ice D

by **Don Burnett** » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 10:40:06

Thanks Ed, I grabbed 4.11.

Don Burnette

> Hi Don, the Wingman Profiler software has a list of games with profiles
for
> each of them with the most standard features already set up, or you can
> create profiles from scratch for any app that you want to use the wheel
> with.....WinVROC, say.....I love mine, use the buttons for all kinds of
> stuff, autochat, car reset, back to pits, view standings and such. Make
sure
> you use the v4.11c drivers to correct any centering probs with the wheel,
> get 'em at www.wingmanteam.com and good luck at the track. Ed

> > Hey gang,
> > I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really looked good
> when
> > I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel, I
> would
> > appreciate any tips/advise you might have. Mainly what I will be using
it
> > with is N4 and F12001.
> > Do I have to set up some sort of profile for each game or does each game
> > automatically utilize it?

> > Thanks,

> > Don Burnette

by **Don Burnett** » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 10:40:59

Ohh yeah, this is the way to drive F12001.
This force feedback thing is pretty cool.

Don Burnette

> > Hey gang,
> > I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really looked good
> when
> > I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel, I
> would
> > appreciate any tips/advise you might have.

> Wear gloves, or your thumbs will be black! (mine are :) But it's a great
> wheel, I have to admit.

> Ice D

by **Pat Dotso** » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:02:04

Force feedback is a fad. It'll die out in another year
or two. Just wait. If force feedback amounted to anything,
all the big super-duper wheel makers like Thomas, ECCI, and
Hyperstim would be making force feedback wheels.

:>
--
Pat Dotson

> Ohh yeah, this is the way to drive F12001.
> This force feedback thing is pretty cool.

> Don Burnette

> > > Hey gang,
> > > I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really looked good
> > when
> > > I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel, I
> > would
> > > appreciate any tips/advise you might have.

> > Wear gloves, or your thumbs will be black! (mine are :) But it's a great
> > wheel, I have to admit.

> > Ice D

by **John Pancoas** » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:05:45

I can't say whether it's only a fad or not, but the tweaking/drivers setup
for each sim?.............no thanks, rather be racing :)

-John

> Force feedback is a fad. It'll die out in another year
> or two. Just wait. If force feedback amounted to anything,
> all the big super-duper wheel makers like Thomas, ECCI, and
> Hyperstim would be making force feedback wheels.

> :>
> --
> Pat Dotson

> > Ohh yeah, this is the way to drive F12001.
> > This force feedback thing is pretty cool.

> > Don Burnette

> > > > Hey gang,
> > > > I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really looked
good
> > > when
> > > > I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel,
I
> > > would
> > > > appreciate any tips/advise you might have.

> > > Wear gloves, or your thumbs will be black! (mine are :) But it's a
great
> > > wheel, I have to admit.

> > > Ice D

by **Don Burnett** » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:43:33

Great, now you tell me.
:)

Don Burnette

> Force feedback is a fad. It'll die out in another year
> or two. Just wait. If force feedback amounted to anything,
> all the big super-duper wheel makers like Thomas, ECCI, and
> Hyperstim would be making force feedback wheels.

> :>
> --
> Pat Dotson

> > Ohh yeah, this is the way to drive F12001.
> > This force feedback thing is pretty cool.

> > Don Burnette

> > > > Hey gang,
> > > > I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really looked
good
> > > when
> > > > I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel,
I
> > > would
> > > > appreciate any tips/advise you might have.

> > > Wear gloves, or your thumbs will be black! (mine are :) But it's a
great
> > > wheel, I have to admit.

> > > Ice D

by **Don Burnett** » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:44:53

Hey,
Does it hurt anything to unplug the usb connector from the port on the pc
while the pc is on? Will it lose it's calibration if I do so?

Thanks,

Don Burnette

by **John Pancoas** » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:01:38

Don't know; I have a non-ff rig :) However, my usb hotas isn't affected
by doing this.

-John

by **David L. Coo** » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:14:09

LOL. I've used them all and now I've got the Momo hooked up with my TSW2
pedals. The Logitech Momo is the closest thing to a TSW with FF that I've
seen yet. This thing is solid and has great FF effects.

- David Cook

by **Don Burnett** » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:18:58

How did you get your TSW2 pedals hooked up to the Momo?

Don Burnette

> LOL. I've used them all and now I've got the Momo hooked up with my TSW2
> pedals. The Logitech Momo is the closest thing to a TSW with FF that I've
> seen yet. This thing is solid and has great FF effects.

> - David Cook

> > Force feedback is a fad. It'll die out in another year
> > or two. Just wait. If force feedback amounted to anything,
> > all the big super-duper wheel makers like Thomas, ECCI, and
> > Hyperstim would be making force feedback wheels.

> > :>
> > --
> > Pat Dotson

by **Ronnie Bigwhi** » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 13:36:50

Why is better technology a bad thing?
You don't like added realism??????

> Force feedback is a fad. It'll die out in another year
> or two. Just wait. If force feedback amounted to anything,
> all the big super-duper wheel makers like Thomas, ECCI, and
> Hyperstim would be making force feedback wheels.

> :>
> --
> Pat Dotson

> > Ohh yeah, this is the way to drive F12001.
> > This force feedback thing is pretty cool.

> > Don Burnette

> > > > Hey gang,
> > > > I picked up a Logitech Momo FF wheel today, it just really looked
good
> > > when
> > > > I saw it and couldn't resist. This is my first force feedback wheel,
I
> > > would
> > > > appreciate any tips/advise you might have.

> > > Wear gloves, or your thumbs will be black! (mine are :) But it's a
great
> > > wheel, I have to admit.

> > > Ice D

by **Ice** » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:01:14

> Force feedback is a fad. It'll die out in another year
> or two. Just wait. If force feedback amounted to anything,
> all the big super-duper wheel makers like Thomas, ECCI, and
> Hyperstim would be making force feedback wheels.

FF doesn't amount to anything? Try Colin McRae Rally (1) with a MOMO, and
drive on one of the 'ice-snow' tracks in Sweden. Feel how the wheel responds
to all the changing surfaces, in mid-race. It felt very realistic to me.
Besides, it's a lot of fun, which is what most people are looking for when
playing games. So my guess is force feedback is here to stay. Wanna bet?

Ice D

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