rec.autos.simulators

by **John Do** » Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:33:01

>> Why not post your review here?
> Same reason those rollerblade photos aren't here. The article
> wouldn't display as I want it to, images and all. :)

I wasn't talking about a signature. But I would agree that a
signature is a good place to put a link to your article(s) or your
website (if Google Groups allows you to use a signature). Quoting
relevant text from your article is a lot easier if the text is
posted here, quoting/threading is the outstanding feature of USENET
that clarifies discussion and distinguishes USENET from World Wide
Web forums.

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by **John Do** » Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:38:27

> Everyone does.

No way.

I do NOT have it.

No, YOU have it.

Just don't get close enough to give it to anybody else.

by **Larr** » Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:32:06

Dude, it's engineered in the device, on purpose, by Logitech for mechanical
reasons. Unless you re-engineered it and removed it then it is there.

Like I said. Maybe you ain't bothered by it. Nothing wrong with that, but
it IS there.

>> Everyone does.

> No way.

>> You can't NOT have it.

> I do NOT have it.

>> You have it.

> No, YOU have it.

>> It just may not bother you as much as others.

> Just don't get close enough to give it to anybody else.

by **pdot..** » Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:00:13

It doesn't exactly zero the forces around *center*. It may zero the
forces when the torque on the virtual steering column is close to
zero, but that's not too different from real life.

Raising the FFB strength in the controller menu above 100% diminishes
that dead spot.

FWIW, you don't have to completely zero out the forces on both
motors. Electric motors can withstand a low level of current
indefinitely.

--
Pat Dotson

> Dude, it's engineered in the device, on purpose, by Logitech for mechanical
> reasons. ?Unless you re-engineered it and removed it then it is there.

> Like I said. Maybe you ain't bothered by it. ?Nothing wrong with that, but
> it IS there.

> >> Everyone does.

> > No way.

> >> You can't NOT have it.

> > I do NOT have it.

> >> You have it.

> > No, YOU have it.

> >> It just may not bother you as much as others.

> > Just don't get close enough to give it to anybody else.- Hide quoted text -

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by **thomas.jackerme..** » Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:04:16

> > Hi,

> > If anyone is interested I just posted a 911 Wheel review:
> >http://timwheatley.org/www/2008/09/06/fanatec-porsche-911-turbo-wheel-r
> > eview

> Looks like a nice wheel but you complained about the clamping system which
> is somehting I always consider seriously in wheels.

The clamping system works fine on most tables. In case you need it
much stronger there is a clamp made of steel available which is ultra
strong.
http://www.fanatec.de/html/index.php?id=291&lang=en

by **thomas.jackerme..** » Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:54:10

Hi

I am the designer of the Porsche wheel and I am glad that Tim liked
it.

We thought about using two motors but the only benfeit is having less
cost as the cooling of a strong motor is more expensive than adding a
second and small motor. To lower the cost was not the primary mission
on the Porsche wheel so we went for the optimal choice, the Mabuchi
550.

A lot of technology of this wheel is hidden under the hood just like
the engine of a Porsche ;). The belts are imported from the UK for
example but the feeling they create is smoother than any gear.

If you like to get more info about the wheel and other racing
peripherals, check out my blog at www.911wheel.com

Thomas

by **John Do** » Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:23:31

...

Seems to me a belt would be used for a different reason than
smoothness. If you are referring to the idea that plastic gears
cause small bumps in the steering wheel action of a Logitech MOMO or
G25, you might want to consider the more plausible idea that any
bumpy effect would more likely be caused by the gap between electric
motor windings. Besides that, for certain applications, some modern
plastics (like Ultra High Molecular Weight polyethylene UHMW) wear
better than steel, maybe because UHMW is self lubricating.

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by **thomas.jackerme..** » Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:54:07

The forces caused by the motor are called cogging forces. It is very
important to have very low cogging forces but even if we use the same
motor as used in the Logitech wheels the feeling is different.
We also come up with our own gear drive design for our lower priced
Porsche 911 Carrera wheel but it is easy to notice the difference to a
belt drive if you compare the systems.
You have to try it out. A belt drive feels much more like a car
steering and less like a toy.

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