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OT: Video Cards

The Other Larr

OT: Video Cards

by The Other Larr » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 11:53:16

Best Buy has a TERRIBLE problem actually having video cards in stock.  It's
always been like that.

It's almost like they are afraid to have them on the shelf.

Except for the $99 and under cards.  You can usually get all you want of
these.

-Larry


> Thanks for the tip.  I checked the local store and they were out of
> stock, but the notice on the shelf said that the sale is good through
> July 16.  I'll be checking regularly.



> > Don't do it man.  This week's BestBuy ad has a 128MB GF4 Ti4200 for
> > $179.99.  Same card I have, BTW.  Much more card for only another
> 20-spot.

> > --

> > Fester

Uncle Feste

OT: Video Cards

by Uncle Feste » Tue, 02 Jul 2002 12:59:58


Very true.  When I got my Ti4200, I almost walked out of the store
thinking they didn't have any since I didn't see any on the shelf.  It
was locked up in a display case & you had to ask for it.

--

Fester

pjgt..

OT: Video Cards

by pjgt.. » Wed, 03 Jul 2002 00:35:35



> Don't do it man.  This week's BestBuy ad has a 128MB GF4 Ti4200 for
> $179.99.  Same card I have, BTW.  Much more card for only another
> 20-spot.

Don't forget most Geforce 3 Ti200's can be easily overclocked to
roughly the same speed as a Ti500.

8-)

*Peter*

Haqsa

OT: Video Cards

by Haqsa » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 14:19:12

After much searching I finally found a store that had the Ti4200 in
stock.  Wow.  Didn't make a difference in some games, due to low spec
CPU, but in games where I was struggling with the detail level it made a
huge difference.  Frame rates in F1 2001 nearly doubled.  F1 2002 is
about the same but that's because I got impatient and turned the detail
way up without doing a proper comparison first.  NR2002 is also much
faster, although vsync seems to be on now, I had disabled that before.
Guess I'll have to dig around and try to figure out how to shut it off.
Anyway I am very happy with it; thanks for the tip, Fester!


Uncle Feste

OT: Video Cards

by Uncle Feste » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 06:04:06


> After much searching I finally found a store that had the Ti4200 in
> stock.  Wow.  Didn't make a difference in some games, due to low spec
> CPU, but in games where I was struggling with the detail level it made a
> huge difference.  Frame rates in F1 2001 nearly doubled.  F1 2002 is
> about the same but that's because I got impatient and turned the detail
> way up without doing a proper comparison first.  NR2002 is also much
> faster, although vsync seems to be on now, I had disabled that before.
> Guess I'll have to dig around and try to figure out how to shut it off.
> Anyway I am very happy with it; thanks for the tip, Fester!

Very cool.  Happy simming!  :-)

--

Fester

The Other Larr

OT: Video Cards

by The Other Larr » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 11:44:21

NVHardPage will re-enable the Vsync option for D3D, as well as other
options, in the Det 4 Drivers.

-Larry


> After much searching I finally found a store that had the Ti4200 in
> stock.  Wow.  Didn't make a difference in some games, due to low spec
> CPU, but in games where I was struggling with the detail level it made a
> huge difference.  Frame rates in F1 2001 nearly doubled.  F1 2002 is
> about the same but that's because I got impatient and turned the detail
> way up without doing a proper comparison first.  NR2002 is also much
> faster, although vsync seems to be on now, I had disabled that before.
> Guess I'll have to dig around and try to figure out how to shut it off.
> Anyway I am very happy with it; thanks for the tip, Fester!



> > Don't do it man.  This week's BestBuy ad has a 128MB GF4 Ti4200 for
> > $179.99.  Same card I have, BTW.  Much more card for only another
> 20-spot.

> > --

> > Fester

Haqsa

OT: Video Cards

by Haqsa » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 13:40:56

I ended up using Riva Tuner, which I guess is similar.  Odd that nVidia
can't get the control panel right after it has been around essentially
unchanged for so long.



The Other Larr

OT: Video Cards

by The Other Larr » Sun, 07 Jul 2002 04:32:22

It's not that they can't get it right.  It's a WHQL certification
requirement that these options not be enabled.

-Larry


> I ended up using Riva Tuner, which I guess is similar.  Odd that nVidia
> can't get the control panel right after it has been around essentially
> unchanged for so long.



> > NVHardPage will re-enable the Vsync option for D3D, as well as other
> > options, in the Det 4 Drivers.

> > -Larry

mach

OT: Video Cards

by mach » Sun, 07 Jul 2002 11:47:39



Too bad. Is there a non-WHQL-certified version of the drivers, then?

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remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying

The Other Larr

OT: Video Cards

by The Other Larr » Sun, 07 Jul 2002 11:50:14

It's still disabled in the non-WHQL drivers as far as I remember.

Luckily, it's easy to get around.

-Larry




> >It's not that they can't get it right.  It's a WHQL certification
> >requirement that these options not be enabled.

> Too bad. Is there a non-WHQL-certified version of the drivers, then?

> --
> __________   ____---____       Marco Antonio  Checa  Funcke
> \_________D /-/---_----'      Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru
>        _H__/_/                      http://machf.tripod.com
>       '-_____|(

> remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying

Haqsa

OT: Video Cards

by Haqsa » Sun, 07 Jul 2002 12:06:47

The coolbits reg hack will turn it on (as will tweakers like you pointed
out), but it still does not seem to be reliable.  If I turn off vsync in
OpenGL, it will turn off anisotropic filtering.  If I turn on
anisotropic filtering, it turns vsync back on.  Very strange.  But
fortunately I can get both to work with Riva Tuner.



> It's still disabled in the non-WHQL drivers as far as I remember.

> Luckily, it's easy to get around.

> -Larry



> > On Fri, 05 Jul 2002 19:32:22 GMT, "Larry \(The Other Larry\)"


> > >It's not that they can't get it right.  It's a WHQL certification
> > >requirement that these options not be enabled.

> > Too bad. Is there a non-WHQL-certified version of the drivers, then?

> > --
> > __________   ____---____       Marco Antonio  Checa  Funcke
> > \_________D /-/---_----'      Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru
> >        _H__/_/                      http://machf.tripod.com
> >       '-_____|(

> > remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying

The Other Larr

OT: Video Cards

by The Other Larr » Mon, 08 Jul 2002 12:42:28

Coolbits quit working reliably a long, long time ago.  I think they died
with the DET3 driver series.

However, as has been noted, utilities like NVHardPage have taken up the
slack to re-enable those pages in the Driver control panel.

-Larry


> The coolbits reg hack will turn it on (as will tweakers like you pointed
> out), but it still does not seem to be reliable.  If I turn off vsync in
> OpenGL, it will turn off anisotropic filtering.  If I turn on
> anisotropic filtering, it turns vsync back on.  Very strange.  But
> fortunately I can get both to work with Riva Tuner.



> > It's still disabled in the non-WHQL drivers as far as I remember.

> > Luckily, it's easy to get around.

> > -Larry



> > > On Fri, 05 Jul 2002 19:32:22 GMT, "Larry \(The Other Larry\)"


> > > >It's not that they can't get it right.  It's a WHQL certification
> > > >requirement that these options not be enabled.

> > > Too bad. Is there a non-WHQL-certified version of the drivers, then?

> > > --
> > > __________   ____---____       Marco Antonio  Checa  Funcke
> > > \_________D /-/---_----'      Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru
> > >        _H__/_/                      http://machf.tripod.com
> > >       '-_____|(

> > > remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying


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