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OT: Race crash

bluestringe

OT: Race crash

by bluestringe » Sun, 07 Nov 2004 09:37:11

Don't know where this is, but it sure is not good racing conditions. Watch
the flagman desperately trying to get the drivers attention with 2 flags.

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bluestringer

Eldre

OT: Race crash

by Eldre » Sun, 07 Nov 2004 12:29:11



>Don't know where this is, but it sure is not good racing conditions. Watch
>the flagman desperately trying to get the drivers attention with 2 flags.

>http://www.texasvroc.org/carexplode.wmv

Oh...my...gawd...  Could those drivers have possibly survived that? :-(

Why were those cars(the one that spun, and the one that hit him) seemingly
travelling at full racing speed while behind the pace car?!?

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bob

OT: Race crash

by bob » Sun, 07 Nov 2004 13:48:03

shutup

Ross Hashan

OT: Race crash

by Ross Hashan » Sun, 07 Nov 2004 13:51:25


year = 1998
track = Fuji International Speedway
driver of red Ferrari = Tetsuya Ota

footage from Fuji TV/ film about the incident called 'Crash'
(http://www.bestlife.ne.jp/crash)

Ota was injured & sued the track.
Story here:
http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/archive/200310/29/20031029p2a00m0fp019...
--
(Mainichi Shimbun, Japan, Oct. 29, 2003)

A racing car driver whose career ended with a sickening crash five years ago
Wednesday was awarded 90 million yen compensation after the Tokyo District
Court ruled race organizers were to blame for his crippling accident.

Tetsuya Ota fell well short of getting the 300 million he had been asking
from the five organizers and the marshal of the 1998 race where he suffered
severe burns that ruined his driving career, but received the vindication he
had been looking for.

"The crash was caused when the flag car suddenly slowed down," Presiding
Judge Tsuyoshi Ono said. "Firefighting and rescue preparations were also not
up to scratch."

Ota was delighted with the court win. "I would like to thank everybody who
has supported me along the way," the 43-year-old once referred to as Japan's
best Ferrari handler said in the wake of the ruling.

Those ordered to pay Ota include Fuji Speedway in Shizuoka Prefecture, where
the horrifying crash occurred, and TV Tokyo, which broadcast the race.

None of the defendants have stated whether they will appeal against the
ruling, including TV Tokyo, which spent the entirety of the court battle
arguing that it could not be regarded as one of the race organizers.

Court records said Ota's terrifying crash occurred during a warm-up lap
before the official start of the race in May 1998. Ota's car burst into
flames after slamming into another vehicle that had already stopped because
of a different accident.

Ota was stuck in the fireball for almost 90 seconds before rescuers finally
dragged him out. He sustained burns across his body and is still unable to
move his right arm, right shoulder and fingers properly.

Judges ruled the flag car should have been traveling at about 60 kilometers
per hour instead of the 150 kilometers it was doing, and caused the accident
by slowing too quickly. Ota was forced to unexpectedly drop his pace and, as
a result, he lost control and smash into the stationary vehicle.

They also decided that Ota was left in his flaming vehicle for too long and
organizers had neglected their responsibility to get him out of the burning
car within 30 seconds of the blaze erupting.

A pre-race agreement between Ota and the organizers not to pursue legal
action in the event of an accident was also dismissed as unacceptable.

"A letter that tries to eliminate one party from taking any responsibility
for major accidents caused by gross negligence is incorrect, unfair and not
void in this court," presiding judge Ono said.

TV Tokyo's attempt to avoid being regarded as one of the race organizers was
dismissed by the court, which ruled it was involved in sufficient decisions
made about the race to be viewed as one of the organizations directly
concerned with running it.

Ota made his debut in 1982, racing in the Formula 3000 series before
switching to GT car races in which he competed in four straight Le Mans
24-hour races.
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OT: Race crash

by Tony Rickar » Sun, 07 Nov 2004 22:08:57


> Why were those cars(the one that spun, and the one that hit him) seemingly
> travelling at full racing speed while behind the pace car?!?

Judging from the post from Ross, the pace car was travelling way too fast
and then abrubtly slowed down to the correct pace catching out the drivers
behind.

With all the improved safety features with barriers and run off areas, cars
going off and hitting other cars is so dangerous. Sometimes it seems over
zealous to see safety cars come out to allow the retrieval of cars parked in
"dangerous" positions, but this is a reminder why. It also shows the
responsibility that comes with driving the pace/safety car.

Eldre

OT: Race crash

by Eldre » Sun, 07 Nov 2004 23:45:26



>> Oh...my...gawd...  Could those drivers have possibly survived that? :-(

>> Why were those cars(the one that spun, and the one that hit him) seemingly
>> travelling at full racing speed while behind the pace car?!?

>> Eldred

>shutup

<responding in kind>
"I don't wanna..."

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Eldre

OT: Race crash

by Eldre » Sun, 07 Nov 2004 23:45:26




>> Why were those cars(the one that spun, and the one that hit him) seemingly
>> travelling at full racing speed while behind the pace car?!?

>Judging from the post from Ross, the pace car was travelling way too fast
>and then abrubtly slowed down to the correct pace catching out the drivers
>behind.

>With all the improved safety features with barriers and run off areas, cars
>going off and hitting other cars is so dangerous. Sometimes it seems over
>zealous to see safety cars come out to allow the retrieval of cars parked in
>"dangerous" positions, but this is a reminder why. It also shows the
>responsibility that comes with driving the pace/safety car.

Thanks for the explanation.  I never saw a post from Ross...  Damn AOHell...

Update:  Ok, I've since seen his post.  The newsreader put it in a totally
different thread...*sigh*

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bob

OT: Race crash

by bob » Mon, 08 Nov 2004 01:53:53

everything is just so difficult for you

Eldre

OT: Race crash

by Eldre » Mon, 08 Nov 2004 03:42:00



>> Update:  Ok, I've since seen his post.  The newsreader put it in a totally
>> different thread...*sigh*

>everything is just so difficult for you

Get over it, Bobo...

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Michael R Sisso

OT: Race crash

by Michael R Sisso » Mon, 08 Nov 2004 03:53:33



Hey

"Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats
you
with experience..."

Remember that from anywhere Eldred?

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Uwe Sch??rkam

OT: Race crash

by Uwe Sch??rkam » Mon, 08 Nov 2004 03:30:14


Hi Eldi,

you might want to check out some of the free usenet servers out there
if AOL's is sucky.

All the best,

uwe

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OT: Race crash

by Eldre » Mon, 08 Nov 2004 04:48:56



>"Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats
>you
>with experience..."

>Remember that from anywhere Eldred?

LOL!  Thanks, Michael. :-)

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Ross Hashan

OT: Race crash

by Ross Hashan » Mon, 08 Nov 2004 05:01:23


You know what.. this time it WASN'T Eldred's fault! Imagine that!
For some weird reason, my Outlook Express stripped the 'OT' from
bluestringer's post when I hit 'Reply'.

I just tried replying to the original post again - same thing, it strips the
'OT:'.
But only does this on bluestringer's post, not on other OT posts and not on
'Re: OT' posts.
Very strange. Kindly withhold your OE sucks replies..

Jan Verschuere

OT: Race crash

by Jan Verschuere » Mon, 08 Nov 2004 10:43:56

Which link do I click to see the video? -my Japanese is bit nonexistant...

Jan.
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OT: Race crash

by Eldre » Mon, 08 Nov 2004 11:27:56




>> Update:  Ok, I've since seen his post.  The newsreader put it in a totally
>> different thread...*sigh*

>Hi Eldi,

>you might want to check out some of the free usenet servers out there
>if AOL's is sucky.

>All the best,

Yeah, it's on the way out - I've had it with AOL.  I've been looking at
FreeAgent.

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