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OT: CD Ripper

Larr

OT: CD Ripper

by Larr » Sun, 14 Mar 2004 04:57:25

Ok, problem is solved!

FLAC is one amazing piece of software.  Full, lossless CD quality files at
about 40% space savings :)

AND the FLAC front-end easily handles setting it's tags from the file name,
so I was able to convert my current WAV library to FLAC format without
having to re-rip them all.

Now I can use DBPowerAMP DMC to convert to nearly _any_ format in existance.

Cool :)

-Larry


> Update.

> So far, the best candidate so far is DBPowerAmp DMC.

> It handles FLAC nicely, and FLAC uses a tagging system.

> The only downside so far is I'd have to re-rip my entire CD library one
more
> time to get them into FLAC format.  There still is no way for me to
convert
> my current WAV's to FLAC and have the file names translated into the
> necessary TAG's.  MusicMatch doesn't support FLAC or I'd use that.

> Real close though :)

> -Larry



> > I did, and I didn't see what I needed.

> > Remember, the two _key_ tagging requirements are:

> > 1.  When the CD is ripped, the file name must be set as Artist - Album -
> > Track# - Track Title based on information from the CDDB or FreeDB.
> > 2.  When converting the saved WAV file from WAV to MP3, etc... it must
use
> > the naming format of the file name to set the tags of the MP3 properly.

> > #2 is what has tripped up every program so far.  Remember, WAV files
have
> NO
> > tag data, that is why the #2 requirement is so important.

> > MusicMatch still appears to be the only program available that does the
> both
> > above properly.

> > I tried EAC yesterday.  It handles #1 ok, but like all the others cannot
> > handle #2.

> > If there was a way to incorporate FLAK and LAME into MusicMatch, I'd
> > probably just live with the other things that bother me about it.
> Remember,
> > MusicMatch does everything I want, I'm just looking for alternatives
> because
> > I don't like the corporate direction MusicMatch is taking.  It's not the
> > tight, efficient program it used to be and it's only getting worse with
> each
> > release.  It also has been a lot buggier and crashier in later releases,
> but
> > updating was always compelling because it fixed _other_ bugs.

> > I'm finding FLAK very interesting right now.  It supports lossless
> > compression (around 40%) and has a tagging system.  If I can find a FLAK
> > based program that also converts FLAK into all the available compressed
> > formats well, we may have a winner.

> > -Larry




> > > >I tried CDEX.  It's pretty nice, but it does not set track tags from
> the
> > > >file name :(  It's also unbearably slow :(

> > > Are you sure you have looked through the options? It seems to have
> > > most bases covered in terms of file naming that I can see, and I can
> > > convert an audio CD to MP3's in about 3 minutes which is hardly what I
> > > would call show.
> > > --

spamtrap.
> > > Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards,
> > > please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text.
> > > Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

Larr

OT: CD Ripper

by Larr » Sun, 14 Mar 2004 04:58:15

I'll check it out!

Thanks :)

-Larry


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> Personally I use the latest beta version as it has a lot more
> capabilities. 10.0 is almost ready to come out of beta (it has been in
> beta for around 5 months) and is a great piece of software.

> You can try it for 30 days then you have to register it to continue to
> use it.

> Cheers

> Phil


> > All,

> > I'm looking for a new CD Ripper.

> > For years (and years), I've been a registered, paid MusicMatch user.  I
like
> > it mainly because it has very powerful ripping and conversion features,
and
> > handles ID Tagging better than anything I've used.

> > But, MusicMatch has become a bloated, over-featured mess in my opinion.
It
> > is no longer fast, has bugs that causes it to crash at unpredictable
times,
> > and is turning into a commercial pot-porri.

> > Time to move on.

> > I'm looking for a Ripper that not only quickly (and accurately) rips
CD's to
> > WAV files, but has the following mandatory features:

> > 1.  When ripping from CD to WAV, it must use digital error correction to
> > create absolutely perfect WAV files.  Some of my CD's are getting a bit
> > ragged.

> > 2.  When ripping from CD to WAV, it must use the CDDB Database and name
the
> > files in a format I specify, such as 'Artist - Album - Track # - Song
Title.

> > 3.  When ripping from CD to WAV, it must allow me the option of
specifying
> > the directory structure of the receiving folder.

> > 4.  It must have the ability to Batch Convert thousands of ripped WAV
files
> > (as described above) from WAV to various other formats, such as MP3.

> > 5.  When ripping from WAV to MP3 (or other formats), it must have the
> > ability to take the file name format (i.e. Artist - Album - Track # -
Track
> > Title) and set the ID tags of the created MP3 to match.  Note -
MusicMatch
> > excels at this sort of thing which is why I've stuck with it so long.

> > You get the picture.  Strong support of tag handling, and the ability to
use
> > file name formats to generate those tags, is paramount.  The replacement
> > program must at least mirror MusicMatch's strong abilities to work with
WAV
> > files (which contain no ID tags) naming structures to create the
necessary
> > tags for other formats.

> > Thanks!

> > -Larry

eri

OT: CD Ripper

by eri » Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:34:23

Ufony
http://www.softe.net

> All,

> I'm looking for a new CD Ripper.

> For years (and years), I've been a registered, paid MusicMatch user.  I like
> it mainly because it has very powerful ripping and conversion features, and
> handles ID Tagging better than anything I've used.

> But, MusicMatch has become a bloated, over-featured mess in my opinion.  It
> is no longer fast, has bugs that causes it to crash at unpredictable times,
> and is turning into a commercial pot-porri.

> Time to move on.

> I'm looking for a Ripper that not only quickly (and accurately) rips CD's to
> WAV files, but has the following mandatory features:

> 1.  When ripping from CD to WAV, it must use digital error correction to
> create absolutely perfect WAV files.  Some of my CD's are getting a bit
> ragged.

> 2.  When ripping from CD to WAV, it must use the CDDB Database and name the
> files in a format I specify, such as 'Artist - Album - Track # - Song Title.

> 3.  When ripping from CD to WAV, it must allow me the option of specifying
> the directory structure of the receiving folder.

> 4.  It must have the ability to Batch Convert thousands of ripped WAV files
> (as described above) from WAV to various other formats, such as MP3.

> 5.  When ripping from WAV to MP3 (or other formats), it must have the
> ability to take the file name format (i.e. Artist - Album - Track # - Track
> Title) and set the ID tags of the created MP3 to match.  Note - MusicMatch
> excels at this sort of thing which is why I've stuck with it so long.

> You get the picture.  Strong support of tag handling, and the ability to use
> file name formats to generate those tags, is paramount.  The replacement
> program must at least mirror MusicMatch's strong abilities to work with WAV
> files (which contain no ID tags) naming structures to create the necessary
> tags for other formats.

> Thanks!

> -Larry

Larr

OT: CD Ripper

by Larr » Tue, 16 Mar 2004 03:37:28

Looks interesting.  I'll take a look!

BTW... Has anyone taken a look at the new WinAmp 5.02 ?

Like many, I was extremely turned off by 3.0 when it was released (what a
dog!), but they have made amends with version 5.02.  It's quite nice, and
plays back about every file format there is including FLAC.

I'm sold on FLAC as the format to maintain my master library in.

-Larry


> Ufony
> http://www.softe.net




Damien Evan

OT: CD Ripper

by Damien Evan » Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:10:43

Is lossless compression like FLAC really worth the effort?  You might as
well just use uncompressed wav files.  I'd recommend OGG if you're looking
for audiophile quality with decent compression.  Unlike formats like WMA it
sounds absolutely pristine at high bitrates around 200kbit/s.
Damien Evan

OT: CD Ripper

by Damien Evan » Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:12:07

And yes, Winamp 5 is excellent.  Nullsoft admitted that 3.0 was a flop and
they've gone back to basics with version 5.
Larr

OT: CD Ripper

by Larr » Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:16:34

Yes, it is worth it!

It turned my 70GB WAV file library into a 43MB File Library, with ZERO loss
in sound quality, and it supports proper tagging which WAV does not.

Absolutely worth it.

-Larry


Larr

OT: CD Ripper

by Larr » Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:17:06

Ogg doesn't run on my iPod.  If it did, I'd give it a try.

-Larry


Damien Evan

OT: CD Ripper

by Damien Evan » Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:29:46

FLAC does?  Didn't realise that....
Larr

OT: CD Ripper

by Larr » Thu, 18 Mar 2004 00:14:39

Yep :)

~40 % reduction in file size, lossless, and tags to boot :)

-Larry



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