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GPL: a few newbie questions...

Gene Boni

GPL: a few newbie questions...

by Gene Boni » Sat, 21 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Andre,

I tried it too and I didn't like the feeling at all. I agree the handling on
the straights is twitchy, although I thought the response in the curves at
Monza was reassuring.

Gene


> Why set it to full especially with force feedback?
> I've got a logitec ff and have it in the middle. If I set it to full,
> the handling if the car is terrible on the straights.
> Or does this indicate that my setup sucks?

> Andre

> On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:52:56 +0200, "Ryan Mitchley"



> >> Thanks again for all the good advice ppl!  I have dropped all helps and
I
> >am
> >> already down to 1:32 at Monza. There has been a thread about AH's
set-ups
> >> having too much understeer.. I definitely agree.  I have had success by
> >> altering them slightly to compensate and also by changing the gear
ratio a
> >> bit... I spin a lot if 1st is set too low.

> >If you haven't yet gone the steering full linearity route (ESPECIALLY if
> >you've got force feedback), DO IT NOW !

> >The handling becomes a lot more transparent. Worth about 2 seconds to me.

> >Ryan

Neil Rain

GPL: a few newbie questions...

by Neil Rain » Sat, 21 Aug 1999 04:00:00


> Andre,

> I tried it too and I didn't like the feeling at all. I agree the handling on
> the straights is twitchy, although I thought the response in the curves at
> Monza was reassuring.

It depends on the quality of your wheel or joystick, but more
importantly the gameport itself.

With the built-in gameport on my Dell it was impossible to go in a
straight line with fully linear steering, but since getting a PDPI L4
card I now find the gameport is so much more stable that it works fine -
and having it set to fully linear avoids the problem of the steering
suddenly accelerating as you turn the wheel past a certain point.

Now there's just the problem of the variable steering ratio at low
speeds in GPL, but you can turn that off by using disable_steer_ratio or
something like that in one of the ini files.



> > Why set it to full especially with force feedback?
> > I've got a logitec ff and have it in the middle. If I set it to full,
> > the handling if the car is terrible on the straights.
> > Or does this indicate that my setup sucks?

> > Andre

> > On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:52:56 +0200, "Ryan Mitchley"



> > >> Thanks again for all the good advice ppl!  I have dropped all helps and
> I
> > >am
> > >> already down to 1:32 at Monza. There has been a thread about AH's
> set-ups
> > >> having too much understeer.. I definitely agree.  I have had success by
> > >> altering them slightly to compensate and also by changing the gear
> ratio a
> > >> bit... I spin a lot if 1st is set too low.

> > >If you haven't yet gone the steering full linearity route (ESPECIALLY if
> > >you've got force feedback), DO IT NOW !

> > >The handling becomes a lot more transparent. Worth about 2 seconds to me.

> > >Ryan

Christof Velmeri

GPL: a few newbie questions...

by Christof Velmeri » Sat, 21 Aug 1999 04:00:00





> > Thanks again for all the good advice ppl!  I have dropped all helps and
I
> am
> > already down to 1:32 at Monza. There has been a thread about AH's
set-ups
> > having too much understeer.. I definitely agree.  I have had success by
> > altering them slightly to compensate and also by changing the gear ratio
a
> > bit... I spin a lot if 1st is set too low.

> If you haven't yet gone the steering full linearity route (ESPECIALLY if
> you've got force feedback), DO IT NOW !

> The handling becomes a lot more transparent. Worth about 2 seconds to me.

> Ryan

Wonderfull,
but I would like to know, how to decrease the Zero-Zone of my
Steering-Wheel? The use of a older dinput.dll is not possible in WIN98.
Greetings CV
Peter Prochazk

GPL: a few newbie questions...

by Peter Prochazk » Sat, 21 Aug 1999 04:00:00



I had never a problem with linear steering getting twitchy on straight line
with my TMF1 plugged in my SBLive gameport. But disabling the variable
steering ratio requires a steering ratio of 1:10 or below on tracks with
narrow hairpins and then it becomes *really* twitchy (The hairpins itself
are a breeze with this setting, but the rest... ;-)

Peter
Vienna, Austria

Wolfgang Prei

GPL: a few newbie questions...

by Wolfgang Prei » Sun, 22 Aug 1999 04:00:00


>Wonderfull,
>but I would like to know, how to decrease the Zero-Zone of my
>Steering-Wheel? The use of a older dinput.dll is not possible in WIN98.

Yes it is. Win98 is oh so clever and replaces dinput.dll with the one
stored in \windows\sysbckup ("some application has copied an older
version of dinput.dll - windows will now restart to correct this
etc.")

BUT - if you replace the file in sysbckup too, there's nothing Windows
can do about it. :) If you patch all copies of dinput.dll in your
system, Win98 does not have a chance to***things up.

[BTW, from one native speaker of German to another: its 'wonderful'
and 'dead zone'. And you don't have to capitalize nouns, only proper
names.]
--
Wolfgang Preiss   \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.



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