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GPL replay max size?

Jim

GPL replay max size?

by Jim » Tue, 20 Mar 2001 03:59:31

Having watched "rms-f2" set an F2 'Ring qualifying lap in an online race
yesterday that was a full minute faster than my F1 record time, I decided it
was time to get the Ferrari revving round the Nordschliefe again. To my
delight I managed to complete a lap with *no spins at all*, and made it
round in 8:50. Whoop! My previous PB was 9:46....... Unfortunately GPL
didn't "remember" my entire lap so I can't save a full lap replay.

So, my questions to RAS are: (1) how do I increase the length of replay that
GPL saves whilst I'm driving, and (2) what should I increase this to, on my
128mb RAM system?

Thanks,

Jim

Phil Le

GPL replay max size?

by Phil Le » Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:21:05

To increase your replay memory enter the following into core.ini:

[ Replay ]
replayMemoryOverride = 40000

In your case, I would set the replay memory size to 32000 or 32Mb.

Cheers

Phil
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Jim

GPL replay max size?

by Jim » Tue, 20 Mar 2001 04:27:16

Thanks very much Phil :0)


Ville V Sinkk

GPL replay max size?

by Ville V Sinkk » Tue, 20 Mar 2001 17:20:15


> Having watched "rms-f2" set an F2 'Ring qualifying lap in an online race
> yesterday that was a full minute faster than my F1 record time, I decided it
> was time to get the Ferrari revving round the Nordschliefe again. To my
> delight I managed to complete a lap with *no spins at all*, and made it
> round in 8:50. Whoop! My previous PB was 9:46....... Unfortunately GPL
> didn't "remember" my entire lap so I can't save a full lap replay.
> So, my questions to RAS are: (1) how do I increase the length of replay that
> GPL saves whilst I'm driving, and (2) what should I increase this to, on my
> 128mb RAM system?

The replay size may decrease dramatically if you turn off the cheesy
effects like dirt and smoke.

+Cinquo

Eldre

GPL replay max size?

by Eldre » Wed, 21 Mar 2001 01:02:59



>> So, my questions to RAS are: (1) how do I increase the length of replay
>that
>> GPL saves whilst I'm driving, and (2) what should I increase this to, on my
>> 128mb RAM system?

>The replay size may decrease dramatically if you turn off the cheesy
>effects like dirt and smoke.

I'd suggest you leave the smoke on.  It give you a bit of warning when there's
a wreck in front of you...  That saved me more than once in my league race at
Spa Saturday...

Eldred
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with experience...
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Michael Barlo

GPL replay max size?

by Michael Barlo » Wed, 21 Mar 2001 01:42:25




>>> So, my questions to RAS are: (1) how do I increase the length of replay
>>that
>>> GPL saves whilst I'm driving, and (2) what should I increase this to, on
my
>>> 128mb RAM system?

>>The replay size may decrease dramatically if you turn off the cheesy
>>effects like dirt and smoke.

    Has anyone set up a replay Override larger then 4 meg?  4 meg does it's
job for the basic replays but I'd like to save all the smoke, dust, et.. and
most importantly, The skid marks of a full grid online GP race.  Odds are I
don't have enough to do this but just assume I did!  what would it take to
get ALL the information saved for such a task?  Thinking about it...
Without doing a trail and error session, Is there a way to measure how much
ram is being used?  Some kind of an application that will measure this and
in doing so tell me I have X amount more available to set the override to?
Forget about the concept of "if you use too much you'll crash the system or
what ever.  I'd like to know what it takes to keep the full amount of info.

    As mentioned once before, I've watched replays where the skid marks
started creating their own race line separate from the drawn race line.
Problem was that there's a limit to how much of those skid marks are
available before they're redrawn, or erased.  Maybe there's a formula of
some kind that can give me an idea of how much these skid marks use and with
some figuring I could by the terabit of ram... you get the picture.

    I have saved a full GP + just over an hour of Practice before.  But that
was with many graphics turned off as I thought at the time that would help
save a bigger replay.  So the length of the replays aren't the problem if I
ran 50% or smaller full grid races with everything turned on.  I need to
find out what it takes to save a full race worth of skid marks and other
graphics.

Fred

GPL replay max size?

by Fred » Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:04:29

I think , freeing space disk where your GPL is instaling does it to
DcW

Jim L a crit :

Brett C. Camma

GPL replay max size?

by Brett C. Camma » Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:01:22

On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:42:25 GMT, "Michael Barlow"


>    Has anyone set up a replay Override larger then 4 meg?

From my Core.Ini

[ Replay ]
replayMemoryOverride=40000      ;<--- 40 Meg, I believe.

I've got 328 meg to play with, though...

Regards,
Brett C. Cammack

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Michael Barlo

GPL replay max size?

by Michael Barlo » Wed, 21 Mar 2001 10:27:20


>On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:42:25 GMT, "Michael Barlow"

>>    Has anyone set up a replay Override larger then 4 meg?

>From my Core.Ini

>[ Replay ]
>replayMemoryOverride=40000 ;<--- 40 Meg, I believe.

>I've got 328 meg to play with, though...

    Don't quote me but I think that's 4 meg(?)  I have 30000 setup and the
skid marks disappear quite quickly.  If you're is 40 meg then mine is 30
meg.  And that would tell me to up it by another 3000% to keep the marks
there if that's the way it works.  I wish someone from papy would step up
and say Yes it works that way, or No it's set internally for maximum amount
of skid marks.  Either way, That's 40000.  Anyone using more?
Ken MacKa

GPL replay max size?

by Ken MacKa » Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:50:26

I thought that GPL only needed 32 Mb, so anything over 32MB could be used for
the replay.  Mine is set at 60000 with 128Mb RAM.  The number is Kb of memory,
according to the following taken from a "verbose" core.ini file:

[ Replay ]

replayMemoryOverride = 2000 ; Amount of memory for the replay buffer (KB).
                                                 ; 32000K will do about a full
race; make sure
                                                 ; you've got enough memory in
your system.
                                                 ; Default = 2000

Does the level a graphic detail affect replay size? I thought the replay just
stored telemetry and the detail shown depended on the graphics settings of the
PC it was being viewed on? I never see graphics in replays that I have turned
off while racing.

Ken




> >On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:42:25 GMT, "Michael Barlow"

> >>    Has anyone set up a replay Override larger then 4 meg?

> >From my Core.Ini

> >[ Replay ]
> >replayMemoryOverride=40000 ;<--- 40 Meg, I believe.

> >I've got 328 meg to play with, though...

>     Don't quote me but I think that's 4 meg(?)  I have 30000 setup and the
> skid marks disappear quite quickly.  If you're is 40 meg then mine is 30
> meg.  And that would tell me to up it by another 3000% to keep the marks
> there if that's the way it works.  I wish someone from papy would step up
> and say Yes it works that way, or No it's set internally for maximum amount
> of skid marks.  Either way, That's 40000.  Anyone using more?

Michael Barlo

GPL replay max size?

by Michael Barlo » Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:42:35

    Who's machine were we using to host the Silverstone race in the GPLF3R?
I'll have to look it up but I thought it was yours?  That had everything
there!  hmm...


>I thought that GPL only needed 32 Mb, so anything over 32MB could be used
for
>the replay.  Mine is set at 60000 with 128Mb RAM.  The number is Kb of
memory,
>according to the following taken from a "verbose" core.ini file:

>[ Replay ]

>replayMemoryOverride = 2000 ; Amount of memory for the replay buffer (KB).
>                                                 ; 32000K will do about a
full
>race; make sure
>                                                 ; you've got enough memory
in
>your system.
>                                                 ; Default = 2000

>Does the level a graphic detail affect replay size? I thought the replay
just
>stored telemetry and the detail shown depended on the graphics settings of
the
>PC it was being viewed on? I never see graphics in replays that I have
turned
>off while racing.

>Ken




>> >On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:42:25 GMT, "Michael Barlow"

>> >>    Has anyone set up a replay Override larger then 4 meg?

>> >From my Core.Ini

>> >[ Replay ]
>> >replayMemoryOverride=40000 ;<--- 40 Meg, I believe.

>> >I've got 328 meg to play with, though...

>>     Don't quote me but I think that's 4 meg(?)  I have 30000 setup and
the
>> skid marks disappear quite quickly.  If you're is 40 meg then mine is 30
>> meg.  And that would tell me to up it by another 3000% to keep the marks
>> there if that's the way it works.  I wish someone from papy would step up
>> and say Yes it works that way, or No it's set internally for maximum
amount
>> of skid marks.  Either way, That's 40000.  Anyone using more?

Ken MacKa

GPL replay max size?

by Ken MacKa » Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:30:25

Norman hosted Silverstone and I believe he runs with most of the graphics maxed
out. .

Ken


>     Who's machine were we using to host the Silverstone race in the GPLF3R?
> I'll have to look it up but I thought it was yours?  That had everything
> there!  hmm...


> >I thought that GPL only needed 32 Mb, so anything over 32MB could be used
> for
> >the replay.  Mine is set at 60000 with 128Mb RAM.  The number is Kb of
> memory,
> >according to the following taken from a "verbose" core.ini file:

> >[ Replay ]

> >replayMemoryOverride = 2000 ; Amount of memory for the replay buffer (KB).
> >                                                 ; 32000K will do about a
> full
> >race; make sure
> >                                                 ; you've got enough memory
> in
> >your system.
> >                                                 ; Default = 2000

> >Does the level a graphic detail affect replay size? I thought the replay
> just
> >stored telemetry and the detail shown depended on the graphics settings of
> the
> >PC it was being viewed on? I never see graphics in replays that I have
> turned
> >off while racing.

> >Ken




> >> >On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:42:25 GMT, "Michael Barlow"

> >> >>    Has anyone set up a replay Override larger then 4 meg?

> >> >From my Core.Ini

> >> >[ Replay ]
> >> >replayMemoryOverride=40000 ;<--- 40 Meg, I believe.

> >> >I've got 328 meg to play with, though...

> >>     Don't quote me but I think that's 4 meg(?)  I have 30000 setup and
> the
> >> skid marks disappear quite quickly.  If you're is 40 meg then mine is 30
> >> meg.  And that would tell me to up it by another 3000% to keep the marks
> >> there if that's the way it works.  I wish someone from papy would step up
> >> and say Yes it works that way, or No it's set internally for maximum
> amount
> >> of skid marks.  Either way, That's 40000.  Anyone using more?

Steve Garrot

GPL replay max size?

by Steve Garrot » Fri, 23 Mar 2001 01:44:39

Here a question, I have the UMCServer sitting here with 32MB of RAM in
it, and it can only save about one lap of a race. If I increase the
core.ini value to save them larger, at what point is the replay file
too large for the 32MB? I would hate to impact performance of the
server to get a replay. If in increase it 10 fold it will still only
get 10 laps, most leagues do 20+ lap races. I think that would case
pauses in the game play, but I am unsure. The computer has pleanty of
disk space. We are talking about a Pentium 200, with no 3d card.

SLG

(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new
and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are
due to too many English classes/teachers)

Ken MacKa

GPL replay max size?

by Ken MacKa » Fri, 23 Mar 2001 03:12:58

Don't know if this is relevant  to a dedicated server but from
http://www.simracing.com/alison/gpl/faq-hw.htm#memory

6.1 How much memory do I need to run GPL? Will more memory make it run
faster?

Papyrus says the minimum is 32 mb. I think having 64 mb may speed things
up at certain points, but I don't think it will make a huge difference in
overall frame rate.

However, with 32 mb you will be able to save only very small replays. As I
recall, with 32 mb I could save only a lap or two at the shorter tracks.
With 64
mb I could save about 7 to 10 laps of solo play (i.e. no AI or remote
players) on tracks like Kyalami and Monza. Trying to save a replay of an
entire lap
at the Nurburgring was marginal.

With 128 mb, it's possible to save enormous replays. I have replays of
most of the Papy Cup races, which are Intermediate Long races (roughly 25
to
30 laps at the shorter tracks) and we usually have a dozen or more
players. Almost all of the replays include the entire race and the last
part of
practice, except at Zandvoort where there were almost 20 players and a lot
of smoke and dust was generated, which takes up a lot of room in replays.
There, I have all but the first lap of the race. These replay files are
typically 20 to 25 mb in length.

So, regarding memory, I suggest getting as much of it as you can afford,
and the faster the better.

Update: there is an exception to this. Many Pentium Classics do not have
the capability to cache memory above 64 mb, so installing more than 64 mb
memory could actually cause GPL to run much worse. See the frame rate and
CPU sections of this FAQ for details.

Update: you can make GPL save long replays even if you have only 64 mb of
memory. Using a text editor such as Notepad, create a file called
core.ini in your GPL main folder (by default, c:\SIERRA\gpl) and add these
lines:

     [ Replay ]
     replayMemoryOverride = 30000

This will make GPL allocate 30 mb of memory for replays, while reserving
34 mb for GPL itself, which is plenty. This will allow GPL to save replays
of
up to 30 mb in length. If you have more memory, you can try increasing the
memory allocation. For example, if you have 96 mb of memory, you may
be able to allocate more than 60 mb (replayMemoryOverride = 60000).


> Here a question, I have the UMCServer sitting here with 32MB of RAM in
> it, and it can only save about one lap of a race. If I increase the
> core.ini value to save them larger, at what point is the replay file
> too large for the 32MB? I would hate to impact performance of the
> server to get a replay. If in increase it 10 fold it will still only
> get 10 laps, most leagues do 20+ lap races. I think that would case
> pauses in the game play, but I am unsure. The computer has pleanty of
> disk space. We are talking about a Pentium 200, with no 3d card.

> SLG

> (All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new
> and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are
> due to too many English classes/teachers)


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