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        Ahhh, think of it as my good deed for the day.  here, for your
viewing pleasure, is a compliation of my favorite zo...@indirect.com (real
name:  Todd) lines for the past week.  Enjoy!

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Why Zoner KNOWS God exists:

        "God probably appeared back then to prove that He existed, and we are
to believe what God has revealed through His Word."
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Zoner gets pleasure out of other people's
suffering.

        "Wow, I wish I could see your face when you meet the God that doesn't
exist!"

Then later:

        "I have no pleasure with knowing atheists are going to suffer for all
eternity, I am trying to wake you people up, you don't have any real excuse
not to believe in God, just your selfish desires.  You just don't want to
submit to God's will, you think it makes you weak, well it doesn't."
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Zoner thinks evolution happens overnight.  
On the subject of a giraffe's many traits
that help it survive (such as long neck,
strong heart, sturdy brain) he writes:

        "So you are telling me that all of these variations, that are
required for the creature to survive, happenend by chance, simultaneously?  I
would like to see a probability on that one."
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Zoner sides with John McCoy.  When Sheyla
asked if we should respect McCoy, Zoner
replied sarcastically:

        "No it is easier to make fun of people that don't share their views,
it makes them feel better, and smarter since they can't answer any tough
questions.  In fact you will probably get flamed for being too narrow minded
and gullible to fall for Mr. McCoy's postings, be prepared."
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This one falls into the "Huh?" category.
To an evolutionist, Zoner writes:

        "Darwinhead, get back to me when you have real proof.  Until then go
hang on your tree branch."
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Zoner thinks he has all of the absolute,
definitive answers:

        "Why would God need a creator, just because the Universe was created
by Him doesn't mean that He needed to be created, God is eternal."
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When asked for proof to back up his claims,

        "How am I self-centered, I acknowledge God and my dependence on Him,
you are the one that sees this as a weakness.  You must not have any friends
to turn to in times of trouble, that would be weak."
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Zoner realizes he is wasting bandwidth posting
his ridiculous crap to alt.atheism, but he just
keeps doing it anyway:

        "That is all I have for now, of course those of you who wont accept
the Bible as an authority wont believe a word that I just typed..."
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Not only does Zoner have very poor grammar,
but he believes that, since science can't
answer all of his questions THIS INSTANT, then
God must have been responsible for everything
he doesn't understand:

        "Why should I accept anything but the truth???  Hellllllloooooooo?  
What are YOU up to the challenge to demonstrate how life formed from
non-living matter and chemicals???  How you ready to demonstrate to the world
how order can come from disorder???  Didn't think so....you can't explain how
so much order happened by chance and without design and God."
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Zoner's version of a scientific equation:

        "God = Reality."
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Zoner does NOT believe that religion and
science can mix, and he believes that
science is a COMPLETE joke:

        "Spiritual science, what a joke!  ROTFL!!!"
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Zoner makes claims but doesn't back them
up with any evidence.

        "There is tons of archeological evidence to support that the Bible is
accurate, there is also secular writings which verify its authenticity."
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Zoner thinks that his and ONLY his ideas
are the correct ones and is not willing to
even LOOK at evidence that he might be wrong.
(Or:  Zoner has yet to discover his period key.)

        "I feel bad that they feel compelled to compromise their faith,
Evolution and  Creationism don't mix, I wonder what other parts of the Bible
they choose to bend in order to 'get along'"
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Zoner has been to Hell.

        "Don't delude yourself, it isn't a fun place, and it is definitely
not a place of rest."
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Zoner is not very good at generating
catch phrases.  On the subject of Christianity:

        "I hope it spreads like a virus, It is the only cure for what ails
you spiritually!"

My personal note to Zoner:  Seperate two ideas with a PERIOD, not a COMMA!!!
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Zoner is an idiot.

        "Since when did truth have to be proved scientifically?"
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Zoner looks forward to death because his life
is so pitifully empty.

        "You sir have no leg to stand on, and wait until Judgement day, when
you get to meet Jesus face to face, and you can explain to Him what a farce
and what a myth He is."
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Zoner knows he cannot offer up proof of his
claims.

        "You will get your proof, but it will probably be too late!"
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Zoner will not listen to reason.  And, as
his posts "Creationism vs Evolution" and
"The Human Eye" show, he sometimes copies
articles out of Christian newsletters and
then posts them under his own name.

        "I have received numerous responses stating that many Christians
believe in evolution.  I state that these so called Christians are
compromising their faith in the Bible to "fit in" with what the scientific
community tries to make us believe.  If you think the two beliefs can be
reconciled, THINK AGAIN...."
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Zoner is a lunatic to be feared.

        "Being forgiven is not a way out, we are thankful for the sacrifice
Christ made for us.  We are still not perfect, but we are forgiven, we hate
to sin, but Satan still tempts us daily, even more than unbelievers, to
attack our faith, and to make us feel inadequate.  Satan is defeated and he
knows it, but he is  going to take as many people with him as he can."
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Zoner will not listen to anyone but himself.

        "Lack of evidence eh?  We are here aren't we?  Now convince me, that
we are here by chance, NO WAY!"

My personal note to Zoner:  What did I tell you about how to seperate
ideas???
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What can I say about this one -- it speaks
for itself.  (He sure loves those commas,
doesn't he?)

        "No, the Bible was written over 1400 years by over 40 authors, yet it
is internally consistent, archeologically proven, and speaks of the same God
and His plan for mankind.  The book of Mormon for example was written by one
man, who was proven many times to be a false prophet and a liar, There is
only ONE way to God, and that is through Jesus Christ, that may not be
politically correct, but that doesn't make it any less the truth."
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Zoner's first language is not English.

        "I will accept the same proof as you Darwinboy, observable and
tangible, DO IT, it must be a natural process, yet it illudes you, you KNOW
it happened and still happens but you can't find it, not suprising."
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That's about all I have time for now.  I'll be back next week with more
highlights from our newest friend, Zoner (real name: Todd).

        Incidentally, after reading all of his stuff, I personally conclude
(judging by his english skills) that he a 14-year old boy who has nothing
better to do than flood a newsgroup with his inane crap in a desperate grab
for attention.  What does everyone else think?

Zima,

Garrison Netzel

Thanks for your insightful, on-topic post, Mr. Poopy Pants!