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GP2 News!!!

by <. » Tue, 09 Jan 1996 04:00:00

Hi ,

today I found in Compuserve news from a guy who visited the Silverstone
British Motorracing fair and he played Gp2 . Here are his experiences :

textured etc.  Frame rate was not grease lightening, but it was no slower than ICR2 with reasonably high detail on my
machine (P75).  The cars look a lot better than ICR2 in that they are all of the real life design I.E. some with high
noses, some with low etc.  As for the track and background, I played it on Silverstone and Monza and both had very good
scenery etc.  The one thing that did strike me was that there are different surface textures and shades.  In the real
world if you look at the Silverstone circuit just before Bridge corner there is a change in texture and collour where
they hand layed the new circuit.  This has been replicated perfectly in the game with exactly the right shades of tarmac
etc.
 The type of machine? sorry I do not know, they had them hidden away from prying eyes, But I suspect that it was
reasonably slow (no one ever spends a lot of money on British club Motor Sport).  No bugs at all.  It ran clean as a
whistle.  It looked as if it was completley finished.  There were 5 machines all running at once all with the GP2 on
them.  All of the menues worked without hessitation and it generaly ran very smoothley.  I did not ask them if there was
going to be a track ed.  Annd finaly, the hold up that I heard was that Geof The God had made the game too sophisticated,
and it wouldnt run well on any thing under a P90, and even that was slow.  Lets hope that the machine that I was using
was nothing too S**t hot other wise my poor little P75 wont be able to take the traumer.  The release date that I heard
was 16 of Jan, only 9 days.<<


Michel de Ro

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by Michel de Ro » Wed, 10 Jan 1996 04:00:00




>>Hi ,

>>today I found in Compuserve news from a guy who visited the Silverstone
>>British Motorracing fair and he played Gp2 . Here are his experiences :
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>>Lets hope that the machine that I was using was nothing too S**t hot other
>>wise my poor little P75 wont be able to take the traumer.  The release date
>>that I heard was 16 of Jan, only 9 days.<<
>See my reply to another thread on this same subject.
>Mark

Mark is only interested in frame rates etc. My guess is that he's a lousy driver
and thos people only look like drives in games like Need for Speed, Screamer,
that sort of (arcade) crap.
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Mark Fost

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by Mark Fost » Wed, 10 Jan 1996 04:00:00



[snip snip]

See my reply to another thread on this same subject.

Mark

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Mark Foster, University of Sussex Computing Service, Falmer, UK. BN1 9QJ

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"There are no such useless words as...'I didn't have a chance.'"
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torg..

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by torg.. » Thu, 11 Jan 1996 04:00:00





>>>>Lets hope that the machine that I was using was nothing too S**t hot other
>>>>wise my poor little P75 wont be able to take the traumer.  The release date
>>>>that I heard was 16 of Jan, only 9 days.<<

>>>See my reply to another thread on this same subject.

>>Mark is only interested in frame rates etc. My guess is that he's a lousy
>>driver and thos people only look like drives in games like Need for Speed,
>>Screamer, that sort of (arcade) crap.

>Well that just shows how much you know doesn't it you tit. I am not ONLY
>interested in frame rates but it really does***me off when speed and
>gameplay are sacrificed in the interests of mere pretty pictures. Who the hell
>wants to see the text on the advertising hoardings or on the side of the car.
>It doesn't add to the gameplay so get rid of it. Unfortunately
>Geoff/Microprose have fallen headlong into the prettyness trap and are now
>having a hard time getting the game to run on common hardware. If they had
>developed the game the other way round and only used spare capacity for pretty
>pictures then the problem would not exist, the game would be out, we would all
>be happy and they would be a lot richer.

>It doesn't matter how ***y pretty the game looks if you can't play it
>properly.

>Mark (who has been playing just about every driving/racing sim that he can get
>his hands on since Revs on a 32K BBC micro and still thinks that
>Revs/StuntCar/F1GP-1 are the best of the bunch.)

>--
>Mark Foster, University of Sussex Computing Service, Falmer, UK. BN1 9QJ

>            -------------------------------------------------
>"There are no such useless words as...'I didn't have a chance.'"
>                                                         [Driving, HMSO]

Has the option of turing of detail occurd to you ???
Carlos Miguel Cordei

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by Carlos Miguel Cordei » Thu, 11 Jan 1996 04:00:00


>Well that just shows how much you know doesn't it you tit. I am not ONLY
>interested in frame rates but it really does***me off when speed and
>gameplay are sacrificed in the interests of mere pretty pictures. Who the hell
>wants to see the text on the advertising hoardings or on the side of the car.
>It doesn't add to the gameplay so get rid of it.

It doesnt get me pissed off.  I thinks its great to have an
envolving ambient that simulates more acurately the real world. For me
it is very important the graphics realism as well as the simulation
engine. I get a lot of help by seeing those advertising help so that I
know where to start breaking, shifting down, and curving.  
I respect your opinion, but I dont agree with it. You have the option
to get rid of the advertising by switching off the textures, that
would make you happy and would make everyone happy as well because
they can choose !  I first played F1GP in the Amiga at 3-4 frames per
second, and I was very happy at that time.

Again I dont agree with you. I think that it is very good that we
have such an evolutionary vision from Geoff and MP.  There are a lot
of auto simulators games and you can play them with the present HW. I
think it is great that we have some minds creating the games for the
future. May be youll have to play it at 10 FPS today but within an
year or so youll be able to play it fast (dont forget that 3D boards
are on the way !!!).  Meanwhile, you can always play it without
texture, without detail, and in VGA (GP2 is not out but I suspect you
can play it like that with a Pentium 90 at decent FPS)

Ill bet youll add GP2 to best bunch when it is released.

   Bye,

       Miguel
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Carlos Miguel Santos Cordeiro


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Mark Fost

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by Mark Fost » Thu, 11 Jan 1996 04:00:00




>>>Lets hope that the machine that I was using was nothing too S**t hot other
>>>wise my poor little P75 wont be able to take the traumer.  The release date
>>>that I heard was 16 of Jan, only 9 days.<<

>>See my reply to another thread on this same subject.

>Mark is only interested in frame rates etc. My guess is that he's a lousy
>driver and thos people only look like drives in games like Need for Speed,
>Screamer, that sort of (arcade) crap.

Well that just shows how much you know doesn't it you tit. I am not ONLY
interested in frame rates but it really does***me off when speed and
gameplay are sacrificed in the interests of mere pretty pictures. Who the hell
wants to see the text on the advertising hoardings or on the side of the car.
It doesn't add to the gameplay so get rid of it. Unfortunately
Geoff/Microprose have fallen headlong into the prettyness trap and are now
having a hard time getting the game to run on common hardware. If they had
developed the game the other way round and only used spare capacity for pretty
pictures then the problem would not exist, the game would be out, we would all
be happy and they would be a lot richer.

It doesn't matter how ***y pretty the game looks if you can't play it
properly.

Mark (who has been playing just about every driving/racing sim that he can get
his hands on since Revs on a 32K BBC micro and still thinks that
Revs/StuntCar/F1GP-1 are the best of the bunch.)

--
Mark Foster, University of Sussex Computing Service, Falmer, UK. BN1 9QJ

            -------------------------------------------------
"There are no such useless words as...'I didn't have a chance.'"
                                                         [Driving, HMSO]

R. van Ri

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by R. van Ri » Sat, 13 Jan 1996 04:00:00


>Geoff/Microprose have fallen headlong into the prettyness trap and are now
>having a hard time getting the game to run on common hardware. If they had
>developed the game the other way round and only used spare capacity for pretty
>pictures then the problem would not exist, the game would be out, we would all
>be happy and they would be a lot richer.
>It doesn't matter how ***y pretty the game looks if you can't play it
>properly.

Who cares! If the game is released everybody has a pentium 120+
sande..

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by sande.. » Mon, 15 Jan 1996 04:00:00



>>Well that just shows how much you know doesn't it you tit. I am not ONLY
>>interested in frame rates but it really does***me off when speed and
>>gameplay are sacrificed in the interests of mere pretty pictures.
>It doesnt get me pissed off.  I thinks its great to have an
>envolving ambient that simulates more acurately the real world. For me
>it is very important the graphics realism as well as the simulation
>engine. I get a lot of help by seeing those advertising help so that I
>know where to start breaking, shifting down, and curving.  

Quite so ... I want to race in simulated GP environment which challenges ones
concentration with distractions such as advertising hoardings, track features,
and colourful crowded grandstands.  I also want the realism of advertising and
personalised logos on cars, so that I can tell who I am now behind (I am always
behind ratrher than ahead :-) ) ... do you think there is some secret code in
F1GP1, Schumacher is a bastard to pass and Taki Inuoe always seems intent to
have me off the track ...

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Andy Jacks

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by Andy Jacks » Sat, 20 Jan 1996 04:00:00

I'm desperatley trying to come to terms with not being able to play GPII
in SVGA on my DX4/120, and I've come up with a really neat justification
for not blowing 500 quid to upgrade to a P1xx:

Surely the VGA mode will be MORE realistic than the SVGA?

Bouncing along at high speeds, behind a misted, and fly-encrusted visor
must give you a view much more like VGA!  I figure that anybody who wants
a "perfect" SVGA view is kidding themselves.

Problem solved.
Now if only I can come up with a similar excuse for EF2000.

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Andrew Jackson.  (Bracknell, Berkshire, England).


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