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by **Joel Willstei** » Tue, 19 Oct 1999 04:00:00

> I found the complete opposite with Brands Hatch in that it is far more
> slippery. As soon as I start to accelerate out of a corner the back end
> starts to slide all over the show. I really have to concentrate
> overtime to keep from going sideways. And it's not because I'm a
> slowpoke who doesn't know how to drive these things. I've managed a
> 1:37.0 there - not brilliant, but not slow either.
> --
> Peter Ives

Peter,

Just about everyone at GSB/VROC feels the same way. No matter how soft
you make the rear,over steering out of most corners still takes place. As a
result,you hardly ever see a Brands Hatch race anymore. We've sent emails to
David Noonan via the Pits if he could do something about the lack of
grip,but nothing has come of them.

As a matter of fact,no one other than Alison Hines has ever heard from
him. A lot of us wonder if he really exists.

Joel Willstein

by **Jim Getze** » Tue, 19 Oct 1999 04:00:00

> Just about everyone at GSB/VROC feels the same way. No matter how
soft
> you make the rear,over steering out of most corners still takes place. As
a
> result,you hardly ever see a Brands Hatch race anymore. We've sent emails
to
> David Noonan via the Pits if he could do something about the lack of
> grip,but nothing has come of them.

> As a matter of fact,no one other than Alison Hines has ever heard
from
> him. A lot of us wonder if he really exists.

> Joel Willstein

I can assure you that he does exist. :-)

Jim Getzen
The Pits

by **Goy Larse** » Tue, 19 Oct 1999 04:00:00

> I can assure you that he does exist. :-)

> Jim Getzen
> The Pits

Yup, but last time I called him, he answered something that sounded a
lot like "Crammond" when he picked up the phone, makes you wonder eh ?

--

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

"Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/
"The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/

by **Peter Ive** » Wed, 20 Oct 1999 04:00:00

>> I found the complete opposite with Brands Hatch in that it is far more
>> slippery. As soon as I start to accelerate out of a corner the back end
>> starts to slide all over the show. I really have to concentrate
>> overtime to keep from going sideways. And it's not because I'm a
>> slowpoke who doesn't know how to drive these things. I've managed a
>> 1:37.0 there - not brilliant, but not slow either.
>> --
>> Peter Ives

>Peter,

> Just about everyone at GSB/VROC feels the same way. No matter how soft
>you make the rear,over steering out of most corners still takes place. As a
>result,you hardly ever see a Brands Hatch race anymore. We've sent emails to
>David Noonan via the Pits if he could do something about the lack of
>grip,but nothing has come of them.

> As a matter of fact,no one other than Alison Hines has ever heard from
>him. A lot of us wonder if he really exists.

Well, it's thanks to Alison that I've managed that 1:37.0. I generally
like my cars to oversteer slightly and can set them up to do so quite
easily, but creating a car with either neutral handling or push is
beyond me at the moment - still reading up on all this setup malarkey.
So with one of my own setups I was lucky to get under 1:40 and Ali's
Ferrari setup saved the day for me at Brands. :-)

Despite the inherent oversteer problems there, I'm still happy to race
against the AI during a World Championship. However, this is one track
where I cannot compete with them - I need sub 1:35 for pole. Still, I
haven't stopped improving so hopefully next time around I'll be in the
1:36's at least.
--
Peter Ives

by **Joel Willstei** » Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:00:00

> >> I found the complete opposite with Brands Hatch in that it is far more
> >> slippery. As soon as I start to accelerate out of a corner the back
end
> >> starts to slide all over the show. I really have to concentrate
> >> overtime to keep from going sideways. And it's not because I'm a
> >> slowpoke who doesn't know how to drive these things. I've managed a
> >> 1:37.0 there - not brilliant, but not slow either.
> >> --
> >> Peter Ives

> Well, it's thanks to Alison that I've managed that 1:37.0. I generally
> like my cars to oversteer slightly and can set them up to do so quite
> easily, but creating a car with either neutral handling or push is
> beyond me at the moment - still reading up on all this setup malarkey.
> So with one of my own setups I was lucky to get under 1:40 and Ali's
> Ferrari setup saved the day for me at Brands. :-)

> Despite the inherent oversteer problems there, I'm still happy to race
> against the AI during a World Championship. However, this is one track
> where I cannot compete with them - I need sub 1:35 for pole. Still, I
> haven't stopped improving so hopefully next time around I'll be in the
> 1:36's at least.
> --
> Peter Ives

Peter,

I would glady take your lap times. My best is only a 1:41. But in a GPLRC
race at Brands last night,only one driver was under 1:40.

Funny thing though,no one really likes racing at Brands. Whether or not
it's our driving,setup,or whatever,the constant oversteer makes for a poor
race.

Joel Willstein

by **Peter Ive** » Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Yeah, if I can get in twenty to thirty laps without an off I'm doing
well. >:(

One thing, I haven't as yet driven online, but intend to be giving it
ago pretty soon. I was wondering, are there any times where VROC is
more popular than others, or is it pretty good no matter when you choose
to race. Seeing as I'm in the UK, I don't want to find myself staying
up till the early hours (4am or later <g>) just to guarantee plenty of
racing action against all you yanks. ;-)
--
Peter Ives

by **Terry Tabo** » Sat, 23 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Peter,

Unforunately, you can get pretty good racing any time of the day or
night. I say unfortunately, because it's somewhat ***ing, and you'll
find yourself staying up later than you ever dreamed of.

Terry T.

by **Peter Ive** » Sat, 23 Oct 1999 04:00:00

That's what I was afraid of. 8-{

--
Peter Ives

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