Ignore the thread or you can even filter him if you want.
By doing "new" threads like this it's just making this worse.
I know because that's what happened on the NROS newsgroup ;-D
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It amazes me how so many people have indulged in this important
discussion to the point of furthering it. Then, those _same_ people cry
foul once they reach the point of realizing they don't know as much
about this topic as they _thought_ they did.
In other words, as long as a subscriber feels he/she is an 'expert' on
the subject matter at hand, then it's fair game regardless of topic.
Admittedly, the same applies to me.
Rick
>> Rick's posts have been going on for far too long. Everyone knows by now
>> that there may be some problems to deal with at the turn, but frankly, he
>> needs to talk about sim stuff, or shut up.
>If it were not a life or death matter I would agree with you about the
>belaboring part. However, I have talked about sim stuff directly as
>well as indirectly. Your opinion may differ on that.
>It amazes me how so many people have indulged in this important
>discussion to the point of furthering it. Then, those _same_ people cry
>foul once they reach the point of realizing they don't know as much
>about this topic as they _thought_ they did.
>In other words, as long as a subscriber feels he/she is an 'expert' on
>the subject matter at hand, then it's fair game regardless of topic.
>Admittedly, the same applies to me.
>Rick
If it's the Lord's will that I die - I die!! If you're correct in your
"prophecy" then I could possible die from starvation. On the other hand if
I take you at your word I could die from some kind of poison I ingest from
eating all those cans of tuna!! <G> Either way, don't deceive yourself
into thinking the fate of mankind is your responsibility!!
John Parker
>It amazes me how so many people have indulged in this important
>discussion to the point of furthering it. Then, those _same_ people cry
>foul once they reach the point of realizing they don't know as much
>about this topic as they _thought_ they did.
>In other words, as long as a subscriber feels he/she is an 'expert' on
>the subject matter at hand, then it's fair game regardless of topic.
>Admittedly, the same applies to me.
>Rick
> Ok, Noah. We've heard your "forecast" and we appreciate your concern for
> our welfare. Consider this "village" properly notified!! Go ahead and
> build your "ark" but don't expect everyone to join you onboard (only Noah's
> immediate family were saved from the flood -- 8 in all).
BTW, my name isn't Noah.
God helps those who help themselves you clueless dolt. You expect a
free ride from God and you WONT get it. Once TSHTF you will go
door-to-door BEGGING for food. You WILL kill for food to save your kids
because feeding you and your family is "someone else's responsibility".
If you don't prepare you will DESERVE the pain and agony of death by
starvation or festering bullet wound trying to prevent starvation.
If you don't live in a populated area, you may get to become a
sharecropper. Good luck.
Rick
BTW, David, your scripture reference is the same one that has come to my
mind many times with all of this why-too-kaye hype going on. Thanks for
posting that!!
jp
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>>God helps those who help themselves you clueless dolt. You expect a
>>free ride from God and you WONT get it. Once TSHTF you will go
>>door-to-door BEGGING for food. You WILL kill for food to save your kids
>>because feeding you and your family is "someone else's responsibility".
>>If you don't prepare you will DESERVE the pain and agony of death by
>>starvation or festering bullet wound trying to prevent starvation.
<snipped misapplied biblical reference concerning how we shouldn't worry
about tomorrow>
God tells us not to worry. Preparation is an appropriate productive
response, whereas the former is not:
"A prudent man sees trouble and prepares himself; the simpleton ignores
and pays the penalty"
-Proverbs 22:3
"In times of tribulation, flee to the mountains"
-Mathews chapter 24
Does this mean you don't purchase any car, home, health, life or auto
insurance and therefore "let God take care of the calamity"?
Y2K preparation is prudent insurance. Unfortunately, most people will
discover this fact one day too late. They will be mourned.
Rick
You must first try to help yourself as a condition for receiving the
blessing of God.
It would be different if we were talking about an unsurvivable
catastrophe looming on the horizon One in which you have absolutely no
control over your destiny. Total infrastructure collapse is wholly
survivable with a minimum of preparations. Post-information age life
will not be effortless as it is today. It will mean hard work for
everyone indeed. It will mean the END of the welfare state. Without
modern health care, the elderly and sick will undoubtedly struggle at
best. Expect to die young.
God didn't hand out an easy life to our ancestors so why do *we* deserve
it now? With the help of modern technology, we've exploited our natural
resources to the point of perversity. Instead of one farmer feeding 8
people (1950's), we now have that same farmer's labor feeding 212
people, with the balance of 204 extra people moved off the farm and into
cities to open gay bars and install silicon implants. People have
distanced themselves from God.
Only a spoiled, lazy weakling would rather give up and die than revert
back to the 1850's lifestyle. God will help you thrive living 1850's
style. But he will not give it to you as you expect. It is suicide to
ignore your responsibility of making meaningful preparations.
Suicide is the most unforgivable sin.
Rick
BTW John if Y2K is a bunch of hype, then you should have no problem
debunking it, hmmmmmm?
><snipped misapplied biblical reference concerning how we shouldn't worry
>about tomorrow>
>God tells us not to worry. Preparation is an appropriate productive
>response, whereas the former is not:
>"A prudent man sees trouble and prepares himself; the simpleton ignores
>and pays the penalty"
>-Proverbs 22:3
P.S - Lunatic.
Next, though I'm sure I won't go to the level that you are in your
preparedness, I DO have a Y2K "strategy" so to speak. I've already made
provision to buy a generator (which is a good item to have even if Y2K isn't
the catastrophe that you believe) and have access to some farmer's gas
tanks. Living in rural America, and growing up in the woods, I have no
problem with providing for my family via "1850's style" if that is deemed
necessary. I've also planned to have a certain amount of cash-on-hand. Not
tens of thousands of dollars, but an amount that is substantial (at least
for what I have available <g>).
I am a pastor, and although I don't claim exclusive rights to hearing God, I
do know how to discern his voice, and at this time I have not had any type
of "prophetic exhortation". I realize that doesn't mean Y2K is necessarily
"hype", but I do have to trust in God (and his people) to meet my needs
EVERY day as it is. I don't "go to work" to put food on the table - I trust
in God as my SOLE provider - and He hasn't failed me yet!!!
You have mentioned before that you are only trying to make people aware of
the upcoming disaster. Well, if you truly feel "commissioned" from God to
do this, then shouldn't you go about it from a Biblical perspective? Your
attitude, imo, should be one of humility and gentleness, but yes, not
without urgency. Fact is, people are literally DYING every single day, but
I don't go into every NG and SCREAM "Turn or Burn"! Why not, you may ask?
With all of the current downfalls of the Church (fallen TV Evanglists and
Pastors, misappropriated church funds, etc,etc) most of America is TURNED
OFF by "the religious" (which, when you realize the true definition of
"religious" I admittedly am NOT). Instead, people have to learn to trust
you in the fact that you are GENUINELY concerned about their welfare. IMO,
your "scare" tactics don't do this!
I could go on and on, but I'll not do this on this forum. If you would like
to take this to email, I would gladly correspond with you!
John Parker
Dude, you are quite simply an idiot.
You're doing a fine job of that yourself. Only a madman would listen
to you.
Joe
>>"A prudent man sees trouble and prepares himself; the simpleton ignores
>>and pays the penalty"
>>-Proverbs 22:3
>Perhaps I am a simpleton then.
>>> My obedience and love of God relieves me from the fear of tomorrow,
today I
>>> seek his kingdom and righteousness, I won't let tomorrow distract me
from the
>>> task at hand. So you see the Y2K dilemma is not a concern.
>>Does this mean you don't purchase any car, home, health, life or auto
>>insurance and therefore "let God take care of the calamity"?
>I have insurance, not for fear of needing it but because generally speaking
I
>think its a good idea for all. When a claim is made the proceeds from
policy
>holders are use to pay that claim. In effect we all share the burdens.
>However that's not really the issue. So far you have told us that Y2K will
lead
>to martial law, conscription of programmers, loss of power, a shortage of
food
>and great fear and panic that will cause people to kill others to obtain
food.
>This is based on information currently available about problems solving the
Y2K
>bugs of which is not under question (by me anyway)
>It is understandable that you wish to prevent others from this danger.
However
>warning us by stating that God won't help us for free and that if we don't
>prepare we deserve to die seems a bit aggressive from someone who wishes us
to
>avoid the Y2K dilemma.
>I have no idea how many tomorrows I have, maybe not even enough to witness
Y2K,
>maybe I'll live to 2050 who knows. Rick I'm trying to point out that some
people
>have a philosophy that if they live today by God's will, and have faith in
the
>Lord he will not let them down in a future time of need. And also that the
>following of God's will is of greater importance than worrying about the
Y2K.
>To help illustrate how someone can have a fanciful belief and trust in the
lord,
>you only need to look at countless survival stories. In some cases
spirtiual
>preperation can be better than physical preperation.
>What would you do if someone robbed you of your supplies?
>David
> >It will mean the END of the welfare state.
> Ah, I see that is your Holy Grail in all this. No doubt one of the
> pro-anarchy libertarian nutcases.
You would commit suicide if you couldn't talk on that cell phone while
eating pizza?
Forget me, I present the facts. Only the naive would take *my* word for
it, regardless.
Yours in preparation,
Rick
> > <major snippage>
> >BTW John if Y2K is a bunch of hype, then you should have no problem
> >debunking it, hmmmmmm?
> Rick, first of all, I want you to know I am NOT against you. You are not my
> enemy!
> Next, though I'm sure I won't go to the level that you are in your
> preparedness, I DO have a Y2K "strategy" so to speak. I've already made
> provision to buy a generator (which is a good item to have even if Y2K isn't
> the catastrophe that you believe) and have access to some farmer's gas
> tanks. Living in rural America, and growing up in the woods, I have no
> problem with providing for my family via "1850's style" if that is deemed
> necessary. I've also planned to have a certain amount of cash-on-hand. Not
> tens of thousands of dollars, but an amount that is substantial (at least
> for what I have available <g>).
I never claimed that. I will try to leave religion out of it in the
future.
With a train coming, there is no time for diplomacy. There is barely
enough time to perform a heaving body-roll into a blind sheep standing
on the track.
I agree that approaching the issue in the religious context is futile.
It brings about more personal attacks and hinders real awareness. But
you must realize that being scared is what denial protects us from.
Fear triggers action. The facts ARE truly scarry - that's why denialist
can't be honest with themselves. No person I know began preparing
without some level of fear to begin with.
Rick
