rec.autos.simulators

Ed Medlin

This is why I've stopped racing Iracing. Once they get all the internal
damage sorted out, I'll be back.

Watching other cars online doesn't give you a true picture about how
they're driving. You should watch videos that people have captured and
posted on Youtube, blip.tv etc instead.

Seems to me there should be some other reason than tire wear if
power sliding is to be prohibited. If power sliding leads to faster
times, I would invent high-tech tires that last a long time.

I guess you mean like engine wear, given current technology.

I'd say he is good at pushing the envelope in situation reality.

Computers don't perfectly simulate reality, but computers are
excellent at adjudication. I totally enjoy not having to manually
enforce rules.

Or you could get a better car with some good tires. Maybe your
opponent has an outstanding pit crew.

Have you tried pushing the envelope in that car?

If I'm not mistaken, you might be able to achieve the same effect in
Race 07 simply by reducing tire traction. Seems I had the pleasure
of power sliding after doing so.

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The first big front wheel rollerblades.

Google Groups is destroying the USENET archive.

I think almost nobody has tried to push the Solstice.

Real World Footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8TW9alkaE

in-sim drifting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvVr81n3LT4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvkFfug-nc4

In reply to the initial poster, you do realise these races are
EXTREMELY short? It would certainly wear them heavily and if any of
those 'aliens' locked a tyre it would probably pop, but I am willing
to bet you that they are extremely precise and the only wear going on
those tyres is during the drift - which would be less wearing than a
lockup.

A possible issue here is was that driver really drifting, or is the apparent
visual and audio feedback that appears to be drifing iRacing's method for
providing feedback that the tires are at the limit?

In GPL, the cars appeared to be drifting, but that was because of the large
working slip angles of the tires used by those cars. Note that slip angle
at the rear tires is the yaw angle of the car, and it was around 10 degrees
or so for those cars.

Ed

During the actual race it would not be possible to do 20 laps at LRP like
that with iRacing's tire wear model. I was talking about qualifying, which
only took him about 3 laps to get down in the 1:02s. In Tim's 2nd "In-sim"
video I see a closer version of what he was doing, but at LRP this guy was
in a constant drift, barely off the rev limiter, from T1 all the way until
the straight. In the last 3 turns, he took a more conventional line. The
only thing I was trying to say is that I have seen a LOT of races from LRP
in a lot of different classes and have never seen anyone drive turns 1-3
like that.......or anywhere near like that......:-). He was able to keep
much more forward momentum than I would think possible with all the loss of
rear traction. I guess it is just a quirk of the Rookie Solstice because I
don't see much of that in the Advanced Solstice. I just need more
laps........:-).

Ed

Maybe the general line (although not even that very accurately) but
the cars always seem to drift more than they really do when watching
others online.

Ed