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GPL - 1967 Ford Documentary

Matthias Fla

GPL - 1967 Ford Documentary

by Matthias Fla » Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:00:00

On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:27:29 -0000, "Michael"


>It seems that the main causes of fatalities/injuries in F1 then were
>two-fold. Firstly the tubular spaceframe construction crumpled and
>trapped/crushed the driver's legs. Secondly the risk of fire was extremely
>high in an impact. Couple these together and you get a highly dangerous
>sport.

The fire problem is "solved", but even carbonfibre couldn't protect
Olivier Panis legs last year.

Right.
Yet, some circuits look surpirsingly "unsafe" in some places, like Spa
and Suzuka, with 1 meter wide run-off areas.

Right, one argument was that the ambulances had too long ways to
travel at the Ring.

A 1999 F1 car, with 800hp and improved aerodynamics compared to 1976,
would be much faster, and very strong suspensions would be needed to
endure all those jumps. Plus, in mid-air, the sophisticated
semi-groundeffect aerodynamics would not work properly, and wild
crashes like the Dalmas flip at Petit Le Mans or the similar
Winkelhock crash at the Ring would happen.
The cars could get thrown over the armco into the forests, and it
would take an awful lot of time to get a driver out of there again.

Yes, we will get "Ben Hur" again, with Schumacher hitting others.
At least, the fans will see the cars nearly every minute, while at the
Ring, they passed only 15 times.

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Matthias Fla

GPL - 1967 Ford Documentary

by Matthias Fla » Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:00:00

On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:49:28 +0100, "Harald Boers"


>>and I am not sure but belts were not used till some point in the 60s so in
>>a shunt a driver could be thrown from a car and killed.
>FYI, in 1967 Jacky Stewart was the first one to use belts. I saw this in a
>movie about the 67 German GP.

In a magazine report of that GP (which someone has scanned and put on
his webpage) there is a picture of Stewart, saying that he wore this
safety harness to keep him firmly in his seat when the car jumps over
the hills at the Ring, 13 times each lap.
Plus the***pit of that BRM model was so wide that "he heard echos"
in there. ;-)

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Michae

GPL - 1967 Ford Documentary

by Michae » Sat, 19 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Yes, of course I was assuming that my other plan to reduce downforce to zero
at all speeds was put into effect also:-)

I think that's why people love oval racing so much in the USA. The Ring did
have huge crowds in its heyday though.

- Michael

Eldre

GPL - 1967 Ford Documentary

by Eldre » Sat, 19 Dec 1998 04:00:00



>What makes me sad is that the cars are so safe now, as shown in the multiple
>pile-up in Spa, but we still end up with F1 on emasculated circuits.

They're safER, but you never can tell.  Senna's crash in 94 and Scott Brayton's
in 96(?) didn't appear serious on first glance...

I *do* hate the bastard chicanes, though....


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