rec.autos.simulators

Dave Sparks
IWCCCARS Project: http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Late Night League: http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Hawaii Handle: davids

It doesn't matter how much fuel there is in the car because the car
doesn't run faster with less fuel in N2.  I like having the computer
control the fuel.  You can concentrate on the race.  Besides, the crew
chief decides the fuel load in real nascar racing.
Cowen Wilson
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/7137

: or maybe a way to control whether we or the computer make the choice !!!

I agree, I agree. Especially when it comes to the gas can. My pit chief
always gives me too darn much. I can calculate it much better. And I'd
fire him if I could.

Matt

: > > >> Don't forget to give us humans back control of how much fuel to put
: in
: > > >> the cars during pit stops.
: > > >No don't do that.  I like the fuel management to be be done by the
: > > >computer. I can concentrate more on the race.
: > > But the computer's way too conservative for a dyed-in-the-wool
: > > no-holds-barred throw-caution-to-the-wind cut-every-damn-corner-close
: > > driver such as myself  :P
: > > Next thing ya know we won't be able to choose whether to take two or
: > > four or no tires next pit stop....
: > >
: >
: > I agree, control needs to be in our hands.  We should be able to choose
: > whether we want to let the crew chief (computer) make those decisions.
: > I don't believe that NASCAR rules say you must fill your tank at every
: > pit stop.  We should be able to fill to any amount we want after the
: > race starts.  So the fill line should be adjustable by us.  Then let the
: > crew make sure the fill line isn't exceeded.
: >
: > David Martin
: >

On Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:08:04 -0800, Cowen Wilson

---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

Cowen Wilson
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That's why he's one of the most respected person in this newsgroup.  I
think you're doing a great job doing this list and I hope that Papy will
considerate this. I think your list is just the OK stuff for the first
patch.  It's not to demanding for Papy and it's not "I want Indy and
Daytona and rain and snow and tire with spikes and 38 player Internet
connection league free and flips and sun glare and balblablabla"   Hey
you're one of the people who's in my list of making people HAPPY!  Don't
stop the work Tom (all the good boy's also like D. Sparks, E.Busch,
M.Carver and all the other fellow racer). HAPPY!HAPPY!

I just would love to be able to access the paintkit from Win'95 or Dos.
Good race at the Brickyard,

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  Wouldn't that make for a great random event??  Once in a blue moon, not
putting enough fuel in...Man I can hear the screaming now...."I was in
first by two laps and I ran outa gas....!!!!"  It happens...
Dave Henrie

Funny you should mention that...  

While running a 50% race at Tally, the spotter / crewchief told me that I '
should ' have enough fuel to make it to the end.  Well, they were right,
but not by much.  Ran out of gas while leaving turn 2 after getting the
checkerd flag.  Gee, maybe I should have pitted, but he didn't tell me that
I _had_ to come in until I was passing the pits for the last time.  

Red tires, no fuel.  He does tend to get e***d, doesn't he?   :-)

Robert

It's pretty hard to guess fuel mileage for Talladega. Fuel usage varies a
lot, depending on whether you're in the draft or not.

LOL! I thought it was pretty funny when I was in the lead on the last lap
of the race, coming out of Turn 3 at Pocono, and my crew chief was telling
me to "pit this time around". HAH! Ran out of fuel about 100 yards past the
start/finish line.

Dave Sparks
IWCCCARS Project: http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Late Night League: http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Hawaii Handle: davids

I have a N2 fix wish. Although the AI seem to do a pretty good job
getting off of the track on a green flag pit, I'd like to see maybe
a hand raised in the pitting AIs'***pit  about a quarter lap from
the pit indicating that he'll be dropping down to pit. I think maybe
this would give some compensation for the lack of depth perception
in the sim; a condition which, for me anyway, is the cause of most
of my accidents.
 In the same vein perhaps and audible clue or a small visual legend
on the screen could be used to help determine those last few critical
inches between "door to door" and  "end to end". :)  For the audible
warning it could just be the engine getting louder or the sound of
wheel barely touching the other car. For the visual, maybe a small
color bar that appears just to the left of the rearview mirror. Just
a few thoughts.
Regards,
Greg
Gavel on Hawaii,Kahn, and TEN

That's a good idea, something I was thinking about as well. Sometimes they
take that funny line to the outside in T4 and then cut across the track.
Very annoying. Seems like even without adding the graphic cues, you could
have the spotter call out if an AI car is pitting under green.

You race close, don't ya! ;)

I think the new mirrors do a pretty good job of conveying that information.
I don't trust the AI enough to race much closer than a couple of feet from
them. One thing I have noticed that you're much less likely to spin when
you touch another car than in N1. This seems a lot more realistic and will
make close racing in the NRO a little safer.

Dave Sparks
IWCCCARS Project: http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Late Night League: http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Hawaii Handle: davids