I brought this up in another thread here, but does an INwindows format
really wipe a disk or just the table of contents? Can files left on a
drive but not being properly accounted for by the system STILL cause driver
conflicts?
dave henrie
I just dropped a 9800 pro in my new system and the thing is a MONSTER. It
handles everything I can throw at it and laughs at me saying "Is that all
you got?"
I just finished running some laps at the Ring with GTR 2002 and I can't
believe how good everything looked and ran. Butter smooth. No pop up,
stutter, slow down or anything. Liquid is the perfect word to describe it.
Image quality is lifelike in some instances. (Vietcong really shines at
1280x1024 32 bit 4xaa 8x ansio, averages 50-75 fps)
The way I look at it I am set for a very long time now with this card. And I
am VERY happy with the performance. No problems at all. Maybe I'm the
exception ,not the rule but I don't care. I love my 9800.
Heres my full specs on the system I just built:
Asus A7N8X Deluxe
AMD Barton 2800+ (333 fsb)
1 Gig DDR 400-PC 3200
Radeon 9800 pro using Omega Drivers (tweaked Catalyst 3.2)
Western Digital 80 gig SE (8 Meg cache) 7200 rpm
Onboard SoundStorm nForce 2 sound (Its better than my Audigy 1)
Antec 400 watt PS
plus the rest of the parts from my old system -cd burner, DVD drive,
monitor,speakers ,etc...
We now return you to your regular newsgroup ;-)
> I know the 97 Pro is all but ironed out now. However, If I'm dumping
> $300-$400 on a video card, I want the latest, greatest thing that will
last
> at least 4 weeks before being replaced with something better LOL!
> That's why I waited for the 98 Pro, and why I'm also disappointed with the
> issues it is widely known as having.
> I know it's drivers. Their hardware is first-rate. ATI has gotten a LOT
> better with it's driver situation but they just still aren't there yet.
> Frankly, I don't know what the hell to do so I'm just sticking with the
> Ti4400 which, frankly, doesn't really need replacing anyway. I'm pulling
> anywhere from 40 to 100 fps full tilt so it's kind of a 'want' thing, not
a
> 'need' thing.
> Larry
> > > I don't know what the problem is (it's ATI, so it's most likely a
driver
> > > issue), but the Radeon 9800 Pro has not been getting the best of
reviews
> due
> > > it's performance issues.
> > > This is very disappointing. With nVidia's very weak release of their
> new
> > > cards, the Radeon 9800 was also going to replace my Ti4400, but now
I'm
> in a
> > > holding pattern until this mess gets all worked out.
> > Larry, when I first got my 9700 Pro, I spent many a days on the
> > Rage3D web site ironing out little gotchas.
I think your Barton is as much responsible for your performance. A fast
card needs a fast chip. Whew!
dave henrie
I'm not sure in how far a format reuses the previous disk structure. I think
it'll write a new structure, but that structure information of course
doesn't occupy much disk space and hence leave most data untouched - which
makes them recoverable for restore utils.
But, these files cannot affect a system installed on that disk after the
format. For the OS, they're gone, never existed.
Achim
...
> > Well so what, in this case one item of advice I gave didn't apply, all
> > the others do.
> > Achim
> I brought this up in another thread here, but does an INwindows format
> really wipe a disk or just the table of contents? Can files left on a
> drive but not being properly accounted for by the system STILL cause
driver
> conflicts?
> dave henrie
> > > I just purchased an ATI Radeon 9800 to replace an Nvidia Ti4400.
> > > I formatted the c drive, and reinstalled windows xp.
> > > I'm getting worse performance than with the Nvidia card.
> > > I haven't used any of the benchmark programs, but I play alot of
> > > Nascar 2k3, and
> > > the framerate is much less than with the Ti4400.
> > > I was getting anywhere from 60 to 100 fps. Now I'm getting anywhere
> > > from 30 to 60 fps.
> > > I tried turning down the different graphics, and the resolution
> > > I'm new to the ATI cards, and I'm wondering if I missed some settings
> > > in bios, or for the card?
> > > In the ATI control panel, I have it set on performance, with the anti
> > > aliasing and anisotroping set to the minimum. There has to be
> > > something that I'm missing, after all, this ATI card is supposed to
> > > smoke the 4400.
> > > Specs:
> > > Pentium 4 2.0a northwood
> > > Asus P4B266 mobo
> > > 768 mb ram
> > > ATI 3.2 catalyst drivers
> > > Audigy 2.0
> > > Directx 9.0a
> > > WinXP
> > > Another issue I'm seeing is when I go to the advanced settings in
> > > display properties, where you make changes to the direct 3d, or
> > > opengl settings, I click on apply, and my screen goes blank, then
> > > nothing but garbled graphics, and I have to hard boot.
> > > TIA
> > I updgraded from a Ti4400 to a 9700 Pro and saw considerable increased
> > performance.
> > Do you have vsynch disabled?
> > On my XP2400+, my 9700 Pro gives me framerates of 60-70+, running
> > 1280x960x32, 4X AA and 8X anisitropic.
> > Something is amiss if your screen goes blank and then you get garbled
> > graphics.
> > Did you install the cat 3.2 drivers first, reboot, then install the ATI
> > control panel, then reboot?
> > If not, try uninstalling the control panel, then uninstall the cat3.2
> > drivers, then reinstall in the above order.
> > --
> > Don Burnette
> > remove clothes when replying via email
I think that's what the so called 'Quick Format' does. A full format IMO
rewrites the entire disk layout information.
--
Achim
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> > Hi Dave,
> > I recall from the ol' DOS days that a format simply deletes the FAT
(File
> > Allocation Table). The FAT is like a roadmap to the file locations.
> > Without it, the files can't be located even though they are still on the
> > HD - *until* they are overwritten.
> I think that's what the so called 'Quick Format' does. A full format IMO
> rewrites the entire disk layout information.
> --
> Achim
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We agree, actually :-)
Come fly with us one day!
Achim
Regardless of all this, a quick format will not retain any files or driver
reminents of the old Nvidia card.
-Tim
> > > Hi Dave,
> > > I recall from the ol' DOS days that a format simply deletes the FAT
> (File
> > > Allocation Table). The FAT is like a roadmap to the file locations.
> > > Without it, the files can't be located even though they are still on
the
> > > HD - *until* they are overwritten.
> > I think that's what the so called 'Quick Format' does. A full format IMO
> > rewrites the entire disk layout information.
> > --
> > Achim
> > ** Mail sent to this address is automatically deleted **
