Just to add to that, we have never (that I can remember) had this
debate when running cup cars. I am sure that if it had been an issue
all last season and it seemed the majority wanted to change it, it
would have been put to a vote some where along the way. In reality,
it has only surfaced with the TA mod where there are few setups and
the ones that do exist, some seem to think are too hard. I think if
we went to open sets we would find a hell of a lot more problems than
we do now. Our league, at present, is not geared twards an open set
league.
Brian Oster
>It would be MitchCAR had I said "We're NOW using OPEN setups" alone without
>consent. Would MitchCAR last long? I doubt it. Just because Im doing some
>of the administrative duties doesnt mean Im making decisions alone or on a
>veto basis. Im just goin with the flow with the only goal to make if fair
>and fun. One thing is certain though, it's going to take more than you and
>one or two guys to sway RASCAR on such a major change as going to Open sets.
>In fact I'd say it would take a vast majority.
>Whats happening now in TA (setup changes etc) is only because its winter
>league and now is time to test/experiment with things for next year. I
>think the problem with these setups is being overstated personally but agian
>who am I. We all drive the same thing so how again is it less fair for
>anyone?
>Mitch
>> > AFAIK we are going to remain a fixed league.
>> So it's MitchCAR? ;)
>> Not saying change it on my account, but I'm suggesting it's worth
>> considering as I'm obviously not the only one complaining.
>> > The TA mod is unique in that
>> > it doesnt include basic well rounded setups. When we get back to the
>Cup
>> > schedule we will use the expert setups that are readily available.
>> Consider me gone till then at least.
>> > So basically what youre saying is you have a source for downloading good
>> > setups that will give YOU the advantage based on a setup vs driving
>> ability
>> > yet somehow this is more fair than everyone with the same setup?
>> Nope but I can spend a few minutes modifing the ones that came with the
>game
>> to suit my style and abilities, or I can leverage on some kind sole who
>has
>> similar style and maybe a better understanding of the game physics and
>more
>> time/patience to develop the setup. And of course they'd only give ME the
>> advantage if I was the only one able to surf the net....
>> Without the ability to tune the car we might as well be running on
>> playstations.
>> > This gets
>> > to the root of my main issues with Papy's NRxxxx. The guys that know
>the
>> > setup cheats almost always win.
>> Not been my experience with GPL, there are 1000's of resources available,
>> are they all realistic, of course not, but they're open to everybody.
>> > If you don't have a handle on any particular setup then PRACTICE with
>it.
>> I
>> > can (almost) gaurantee that if you turn a 100 laps at any track with any
>> > setup that you will be able to find the limit and to run laps safely
>> during
>> > the race. On the flip side if you jump into a bad setup and run it like
>> you
>> > do your good setup then yea youre going to have problems.
>> Of course if I had time for 100 laps practice I'd be able to drive around
>> any setup problems, but an hour or 2 a week is all I can afford practice
>> wise and this week less. This is an enjoyable pass time not my life.
>> > particular setup matches his style. Yet in the same paragraph you say
>its
>> > more fair to run open setups because guys can just go download a good
>> setup?
>> Never said more fair, just more fun. Natural talent and hours of
>practice
>> will always rise to the top open or fixed.
