rec.autos.simulators

by **Chri** » Mon, 05 Mar 2001 04:05:18

Dear all,

Bar the more simple games (TOCA2, Colin McRae et al) has anyone actually completed a game?

I have trying with Viper Racing for the last two years (extremely on and off) and I am very nearly there.

I am also currently wasting my time with GP3 on the second-to-baby setting and am getting nowhere (first corner blues, every time, or making a simple mistake on lap 3/4)

Besides just bombing around tracks, who has completed games on the top simulation level (race distance not included)?

Chris

PS: Go Schumi, Go Schumi, Go Schumi...
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by **ymenar** » Mon, 05 Mar 2001 04:37:30

>Bar the more simple games (TOCA2, Colin McRae et al) has anyone actually

completed a game?

The thing is, how can you "finish" a racing game? :) I've always been
attracted to racing games in the 80's because you always had unlimited
challenge. Sure you could win an offline championship in Nascar Racing 1,
or finish every challenge of NFS:PU, but you could always try new stuff, new
tracks, slower cars, faster cars, reverse tracks, etc...

I don't think I ever "finished" a sim, but I sure mastered some. I mastered
IndyCar Racing 2 perfectly, I can do anything with the car. I mastered
Nascar 2 on the NROS at Talladega. Ask some of my favorite drafters there,
they know we could do about anything there, every car movement was
calculated and every feedback was understood.

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by **George M. Smile** » Mon, 05 Mar 2001 05:15:21

> Bar the more simple games (TOCA2, Colin McRae et al) has anyone
> actually completed a game?

Sure, I've completed Viper Racing & GPL (a full GP season) as
champion. I just bomb around in the Nascar games though since
it seems impossible to keep the AI in line during the race and they
never show up in the pits for a good scrap.

- George

by **Morgan V. Woote** » Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:39:35

I "finished" Viper Racing. The GTS championship. I just couldn't seem to do it
before, but after several months of GPL I came back to Viper to start over in
the GTS division and somehow it had all become much, much easier. Blew the AI to
hell and back and won the championship.

I keep starting other championships in other sims, but I never come anywhere
close to completing them.

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Dear all,

Bar the more simple games (TOCA2, Colin McRae et al) has anyone actually
completed a game?

I have trying with Viper Racing for the last two years (extremely on and off)
and I am very nearly there.

I am also currently wasting my time with GP3 on the second-to-baby setting and
am getting nowhere (first corner blues, every time, or making a simple mistake
on lap 3/4)

Besides just bombing around tracks, who has completed games on the top
simulation level (race distance not included)?

Chris

PS: Go Schumi, Go Schumi, Go Schumi...
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by **Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCS** » Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:12:23

I've been playing the Papy sims since Nascar 1 and ICR2 and still have
tracks I've never driven on. And you guys have completed seasons? With
championships? Sheesh, and I thought I had no life. :) (Tongue planted
firmly in cheek)

Russ, MCSE

> I "finished" Viper Racing. The GTS championship. I just couldn't seem to
do it
> before, but after several months of GPL I came back to Viper to start over
in
> the GTS division and somehow it had all become much, much easier. Blew the
AI to
> hell and back and won the championship.

> I keep starting other championships in other sims, but I never come
anywhere
> close to completing them.

> --
> -------------------------------------
> Morgan Vincent Wooten
> GPLRank: +10.02
> http://home.earthlink.net/~morganv00/
> -------------------------------------

> Dear all,

> Bar the more simple games (TOCA2, Colin McRae et al) has anyone actually
> completed a game?

> I have trying with Viper Racing for the last two years (extremely on and
off)
> and I am very nearly there.

> I am also currently wasting my time with GP3 on the second-to-baby setting
and
> am getting nowhere (first corner blues, every time, or making a simple
mistake
> on lap 3/4)

> Besides just bombing around tracks, who has completed games on the top
> simulation level (race distance not included)?

> Chris

> PS: Go Schumi, Go Schumi, Go Schumi...
> --
> --------------------------------------------------
> http://www.the.saints.btinternet.co.uk

by **Cliff Roma** » Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:28:59

The only championship I have completed with the Nascar games is a
championship with the CTS Addon for N3

I spend too much time racing in leagues to race against the AI too much

> I've been playing the Papy sims since Nascar 1 and ICR2 and still have
> tracks I've never driven on. And you guys have completed seasons? With
> championships? Sheesh, and I thought I had no life. :) (Tongue planted
> firmly in cheek)

> Russ, MCSE

> > I "finished" Viper Racing. The GTS championship. I just couldn't seem to
> do it
> > before, but after several months of GPL I came back to Viper to start
over
> in
> > the GTS division and somehow it had all become much, much easier. Blew
the
> AI to
> > hell and back and won the championship.

> > I keep starting other championships in other sims, but I never come
> anywhere
> > close to completing them.

> > --
> > -------------------------------------
> > Morgan Vincent Wooten
> > GPLRank: +10.02
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~morganv00/
> > -------------------------------------

> > Dear all,

> > Bar the more simple games (TOCA2, Colin McRae et al) has anyone actually
> > completed a game?

> > I have trying with Viper Racing for the last two years (extremely on and
> off)
> > and I am very nearly there.

> > I am also currently wasting my time with GP3 on the second-to-baby
setting
> and
> > am getting nowhere (first corner blues, every time, or making a simple
> mistake
> > on lap 3/4)

> > Besides just bombing around tracks, who has completed games on the top
> > simulation level (race distance not included)?

> > Chris

> > PS: Go Schumi, Go Schumi, Go Schumi...
> > --
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > http://www.the.saints.btinternet.co.uk

by **J Sakari Salone** » Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:04:05

> Dear all,
> Bar the more simple games (TOCA2, Colin McRae et al) has anyone actually completed a game?
> I have trying with Viper Racing for the last two years (extremely on and off) and I am very nearly there.
> I am also currently wasting my time with GP3 on the second-to-baby setting and am getting nowhere (first corner blues, every time, or making a simple mistake on lap 3/4)
> Besides just bombing around tracks, who has completed games on the top simulation level (race distance not included)?
> Chris

I'm not sure what you mean by "completing games", but I've finished
full-length races in NASCAR Racing 1, IndyCar Racing 2, NASCAR Racing 3 and
a total of 13 full-length races in GPL. I'm not sure why, but beginning with
Indianapolis 500 about ten years ago, I've never raced anything but
full-length races. Never finished one in Indianapolis 500, though.

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by **Disgruntled Go** » Mon, 05 Mar 2001 22:15:54

On Sun, 04 Mar 2001 03:12:23 GMT, "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE"

>I've been playing the Papy sims since Nascar 1 and ICR2 and still have
>tracks I've never driven on. And you guys have completed seasons? With
>championships? Sheesh, and I thought I had no life. :) (Tongue planted
>firmly in cheek)

I ran several seasons back in the GP1 days. Since then though I have
alot less time - I start alot of championships, but often lose
interest when it becomes obvious I can't win, or at least challenge
for the title.

Bear in mind I take a "career" attitude. Currently i'm in my 3rd Busch
season in N3 (I got "sacked" twice and then "reinstated" for a new
season - thats one of the good things about simming, you can justify
anything against AI). I have to finish well, say top 5, to graduate up
to Winston Cup.
In GP3, I use a program I downloaded from AlphaF1 to keep track of my
"career" - and when a new team offers me a contract i'll go there. For
the time being, I keep making stupid mistakes in a Jag.
In GPL - I still need to finish a damn race before I can "qualify" to
run in the Championship.

All this helps me immerse myself in the game. Even if it does seem sad
;-) It's nothing to do with "completing" the game, it's just a sort of
challenge I set myself.

DG

by **Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCS** » Tue, 06 Mar 2001 00:52:48

I never have enough time to devote to a sim to get that deeply involved in
it. I'll usually check out all the tracks in the manual, find 3-6 that look
really interesting, and just play those in the time that I do have. In GPL
for instance, it was Monza, Watkins Glen, Spa, and the Ring. Or in the
Nascar games, the superspeedways: Daytona, C***te, Michigan, Atlanta,
Talledega, Indy, Texas, and California. But I will run the limited number
of tracks I play into the ground, usually with the record for fastest
qualifying lap, winning a few races, etc. Except GPL. <<Sigh>>

Later,
Russ

> On Sun, 04 Mar 2001 03:12:23 GMT, "Russell D. Laughlin Jr., MCSE"

> >I've been playing the Papy sims since Nascar 1 and ICR2 and still have
> >tracks I've never driven on. And you guys have completed seasons? With
> >championships? Sheesh, and I thought I had no life. :) (Tongue
planted
> >firmly in cheek)

> I ran several seasons back in the GP1 days. Since then though I have
> alot less time - I start alot of championships, but often lose
> interest when it becomes obvious I can't win, or at least challenge
> for the title.

> Bear in mind I take a "career" attitude. Currently i'm in my 3rd Busch
> season in N3 (I got "sacked" twice and then "reinstated" for a new
> season - thats one of the good things about simming, you can justify
> anything against AI). I have to finish well, say top 5, to graduate up
> to Winston Cup.
> In GP3, I use a program I downloaded from AlphaF1 to keep track of my
> "career" - and when a new team offers me a contract i'll go there. For
> the time being, I keep making stupid mistakes in a Jag.
> In GPL - I still need to finish a damn race before I can "qualify" to
> run in the Championship.

> All this helps me immerse myself in the game. Even if it does seem sad
> ;-) It's nothing to do with "completing" the game, it's just a sort of
> challenge I set myself.

> DG

by **Dave Henri** » Tue, 06 Mar 2001 01:02:45

I used to pick and choose certain tracks...but a new wrinkle in simming
the last few years
has "forced" me to run all the tracks. This is the GPLRank and F1CS2k
Ranking sites.
To get a GPL rank you must submit times at all the original tracks. Same
for the CS rank site. The ONLY trouble with this is...there are a-lot of
really good 3rd party tracks, especially
for GPL, that I just don't drive much. Cuz my GPL time is usually
compressed in the downtime of other leagues and I don't get much chance to
improve.
dave henrie

Dear all,

Bar the more simple games (TOCA2, Colin McRae et al) has anyone actually
completed a game?

by **Mike Donnelly J** » Tue, 06 Mar 2001 02:26:01

> Dear all, Bar the more simple games (TOCA2, Colin McRae et al) has
> anyone actually completed a game? I have trying with Viper Racing for
> the last two years (extremely on and off) and I am very nearly
> there. I am also currently wasting my time with GP3 on the
> second-to-baby setting and am getting nowhere (first corner blues,
> every time, or making a simple mistake on lap 3/4)

I've completed Dirt Track Racing, the entire career ladder. I mean I
started with a street stock and worked myself all the way to the top Rat
Bag Grand National and won that championship. If you really work at it
you can complete it in a week.

by **Alan Conceic** » Tue, 06 Mar 2001 03:46:04

The closest I've come to "completing" a game was a 35 race N2 season (I added
Gateway, that crappy Vegas from Thunder Valley way back when, and other such
stuff) I had for myself (full realism, 100% AI), in which I raced the first 8
events before running out of time that summer. Had two wins and a top 5, but 4
dnfs (only one of which being an accident of my own fault). I've probably done
about 10-15 full length runs otherwise.

-
Alan

by **Eldre** » Tue, 06 Mar 2001 04:14:37

>I'm not sure what you mean by "completing games", but I've finished
>full-length races in NASCAR Racing 1, IndyCar Racing 2, NASCAR Racing 3 and
>a total of 13 full-length races in GPL. I'm not sure why, but beginning with
>Indianapolis 500 about ten years ago, I've never raced anything but
>full-length races. Never finished one in Indianapolis 500, though.

I finished 4, I think. Won 2, and finished 2nd in one. Don't remember the
finish in the fourth one...

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Tue, 06 Mar 2001 04:14:38

>Dear all,

>Bar the more simple games (TOCA2, Colin McRae et al) has anyone actually =
>completed a game?

>I have trying with Viper Racing for the last two years (extremely on and =
>off) and I am very nearly there.

>I am also currently wasting my time with GP3 on the second-to-baby =
>setting and am getting nowhere (first corner blues, every time, or =
>making a simple mistake on lap 3/4)

>Besides just bombing around tracks, who has completed games on the top =
>simulation level (race distance not included)?

*Completed* a racing game? I've run full seasons in Nascar 1&2, ICR 1&2, GP
1&2, GPL, & SCGT. I've also done full races in all of the above. Is that what
you meant?

Eldred
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Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73

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with experience...
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by **Chri** » Wed, 07 Mar 2001 05:45:35

No, I meant won the top season on the hardest (not most time consuming)
setting.

Much like me and Minardi winning 6 constructor titles and 5 driver
championships with Giancarlo Fisichella in Grand Prix World over 10 years
(game time, about 2 months real time).

Chris

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