rec.autos.simulators

Ive some questions to you and for all the guys who are really flying in GPL
..

were you also fast in another sims ? (F1GP, GP2, ICR2, ...)

I remember some guys who were fast in F1GP and in GP2 too

I was fast in F1GP (almost top ten in F1GP HOF) but in GP2 I lost speed and
in GPL Im 3 seconds off your lap times ...

I think that when I buy a wheel (this week I hope) I will be only 2 seconds
off yor tail  ;) ,
but ...

Why some guys are fast in some sims and "slow" in other ? maybe the
physiscs of a certain sim can be favourable for some "drivers" ?

F1GP was a good sim for late braking drivers (Senna, Schumi, ...)
ICR2 was good for early braking drivers (Prost, Panis, ...)

Ayrton McKafre (Powered by Seat) ICQ#17627567

Excuse my english ...

Some of us are *always* destined to be slow.....    8-(

*Peter* 8-)

I'm a different Dave.  :-)

I race CPR, F1RS, MTM2. About a year and a half ago I raced a lot with POD.
I have been able to match most of the top times in those sims and have done
very, very well online against some of the best drivers I know of (I
apologize if I sound like I'm bragging, I'm just answering your question
-)  ).  I also don't believe that a person has to have much experience with
past sims, or even a lot of talent, to be fast in a particular one. Practice
and/or having a good "fit" with a sim is the key. I'll give an example
later.

The fastest guys in most sims are usually the ones who put the most hours
into the game along with having the most enthusiasm.  One leads to the
other. Talent is important, but not so much with hotlapping as in AI, and
especially, online racing.

I saw your other post, and the times you are doing without a wheel are
tremendous. With a wheel, you should be great.

One sim can fit with a driver much better than another. For me, GPL isn't as
difficult as two other sims I use (CPR and F1RS) or even MTM2. Not nearly as
hard as F1RS and CPR actually. I was able to get very fast laps much quicker
in GPL than I did with the others. Many people find GPL harder for them. I
just happen to like being able to slide the GPL cars through the turns, and
they seem very, very easy to control on the straights. The overall feel of
speed seems slow to me too, while CPR and to a slightly lesser extent, F1RS,
seem like hyperspeed in comparison. For others, they may have a completely
opposite view. How one person perceives a sim's "feel" is something that
can't be argued. I have a friend who has 0 hours with sims. His racing has
been mainly with POD. He was able to do a 1"07 at Watkins Glen after about
4-5 hours which is about how long it took me. He just "fit" GPL very well.
You hit on a key point with regards to sims and how they are perceived by
some. Again, since you are so damn fast with a keyboard, you obviously fit
GPL very well.   :-)

Dave
DmndDave

Very easy to control on the straight? I feel like I am driving a waterbed. I
know the cars had soft suspension high ride height compared to modern
race cars but Im having trouble keeping the car straight if I try to move to
the
side a little. Maybe I have the wrong setup on my steering controller.
Its still fun to drive and good practice for driving smooth but little
frustrating.

Dsr#74 :-)

- I used to calibrate the accelerator as in GP2, i.e. I did *not*
depress it fully when calibrating. I thought this would ensure that
"full throttle" actually means "full" and not "97%". Bad mistake. Even
though this measure probably did give me full acceleration, it
effectively turned the gas pedal into a digital device - it was
"nothing" or "everything" with little in-between. Not good for
control, as you can imagine. I now calibrated the gas like the setup
tells me to do, and it's much more responsive.

- In a vain effort to be ultimately realistic, I initially set the
linearity slider to "fully linear". This led to a very responsive, yet
uncontrollable car - the "waterbed effect" you speak of. If you set
the slider to "fully non-linear", however, you get a dog of a car that
apparently is absolutely unwilling to corner. The trick is to find a
position that's between those absolutes and gives you a responsive,
yet controllable car. For my personal likes and hardware (T2), this is
currently 1/4th from the "fully linear" end of the scale.

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Wolfgang Preiss   \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

Devon

As a famous computer said once in the future :

"Im sorry Dave, but Im afraid I can't do that"

;-P

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Cheers!
John

My preference too (TM Formula Pro/Nascar Pro)

Tony

Kurt

I suspect this effect comes into play on a lot of people's wheels
out there, but I suspect most people have probably long since replaced
their pots by the time 2 years comes up so maybe this effect doesn't
have as much influence as it does on my T2.

Come to think of it - people who play Nascar2 all the time will
probably have pots that are worn only on the left hand side... this
could explain why they have trouble driving road circuits because the
pot doesn't respond at the same resistance/movement rate on teh right
hand side... :)