What is the best Wheel to buy?
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Jeff Eiland
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aka viman on GSB
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If you want to spend about $140 and you want force feedback I suggest you
get the Act Labs Force RS. I really like mine... the clamping mechanism is
solid but the floor pedals tend to slide around (doesn't stink to carpet).
I've added 3/4" long threaded carpet spikes to the pedal base. Works great
now! I've also added better pedal covers from the auto store.
The Thomas Enterprises wheel seems well built but not worth the $300
starting price. They go all the way up to $1000. Hmmm.... If you got that
kind of money to spend on a sim wheel maybe you should get your own race
car/team.
Tim
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Sure
Well OK. I guess that about covers FF wheels.
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Sure, but in the real car you FELT the forces with your body. Something we sim
racers don't have! That's the reason, FF is so helpfull, because with it you
can feel the wheight transfers with your hands. This additional feedback about
the car's behaviour is helping me a lot. Just video and sound just wasn't enough
for me...
l8er
ronny
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what are the features that TSW could justify the $1000 price tag
and does it really feeel that much different in the game ??
> The point you're missing is that a FF wheel makes GPL and N3 harder
> with the "feel" it delivers to the driver. When using any non FF wheel,the
> only resistance you feel is the constant increase and decrease of the
> springs or bungie cord as you turn the wheel. This resistance doesn't
> change. While in Gpl you feel the car getting lighter or when the weight
> transfers to the front it gets a lot heavier. Both of these actions requires
> you to handle the car somewhat differently,as the effort to steer the car
> the same degree is completely different. Non FF wheels,no matter how
> good,just can't give you this new experience. And until you master the
> "feel",you will be slower. But once you do,it's a whole new ballgame.
I'm well aware of how this works, and as soon as a good high-end FF
wheel comes out with a good FF effect in a sim a care about, I'll
probably buy it, but from my own personal experiences with FF,
admittedly not GPL or N3 but a good number of others including Viper,
it's not a realistic feel to me, just different, the feel I got from
Viper was nothing like the feel I have in my road car when I take it to
edge and beyond (I take it to the local track a couple of times each
year), and comments from people *I* usually trust in this matter seems
to support this, this is not to say however that FF is a dead end, far
from it, I'm fairly sure that FF will some day be very realistic, and at
that point I will buy one, I'm not against FF as such, I just don't feel
that it gives me what I want at the moment, I will however see if I can
get to try GPL with FF though, maybe it'll change my mind ......
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Aside from some ongoing electrical problems, my TSW is a rock-solid unit that
is smooth, reliable and indestructable. It has paid for itself ove time
because I no longer have to go out and buy new Thrustmasters every year when,
as if on cue, the innards break and the unit disassembles itself.
>Yeah. Especially if you don't want or need Force Feedback or
>USB support.
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> >Actually Greg, I've tried FF, although not with N3 and GPL, and it
> Well all bets are off until you try it on N3 or GPL (IMHO).
-pierre
>> >Actually Greg, I've tried FF, although not with N3 and GPL, and it
>> Well all bets are off until you try it on N3 or GPL (IMHO).
>I agree with you on GPL, but for me N3 is very weak FF-wise.
>Am I missing something? I have the FF values set to their maximum
>(200) in N3.ini. I can feel it when I tap the walls, but that's
>about it... no feedback on how much/little the front tires are
>gripping or on weight transfer.
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