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Rendition Verite owners, please read....

Dave

Rendition Verite owners, please read....

by Dave » Tue, 17 Jun 1997 04:00:00

I know there probably is a news group somewhere for Rendition based cards
but my server can't see it.  So, although off topic I would appreciate any
help from my fellow sim racers since I know a lot of you folks own them for
N2 and ICR2.

Here's my problems:
(1) Just bought and installed a Screamin 3D card, while booting up Win95 my
monitor goes to sleep (no signal) shortly after the "starting win95..."
message.  This continues until right before Win95 starts.  I can't see any
thing loading from my config files nor the win95 startup screen.  I have
tried using the 'ssutil.exe' utilty to set my refresh rates correctly for
DOS, but this does not change anything.  Win95 runs fine and my
DOS-Rendition games run fine, so this is annoying as hell. I am running a
Monster 3D along side. I've had it for awhile and has worked fine before
and after installing the Screamin 3D.  Need more details on this one let me
know...

(2) OK, I want to run the Rendition ver. of N2 and ICR2 in DMA mode.  N2
works fine and flies.  I can only run ICR2 using the 'Indysafe' exe, which
I guess is just the non-DMA mode. I installed the ICR2 that came bundled
with the Screamin 3D.  Would it make a hill of beans if I upgrared my older
ver. of ICR2 with the Rendition patch?  I would assume not but I've been
wrong before.  Any help on this one?

Thanks,

Dave Baker
Houston, TX

Eric T. Busc

Rendition Verite owners, please read....

by Eric T. Busc » Tue, 17 Jun 1997 04:00:00

It's a known problem, and has been fixed in the latest Intergraph drivers
so I would assume Sierra's next revision will do the same.  As far as
Indysafe, what kind of processor do you have?

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David Noona

Rendition Verite owners, please read....

by David Noona » Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:00:00


I've only ever managed to run Indyfast by shutting-down WIN95 to MS-DOS and
you must have a Pentium.

Dave

Michael E. Carve

Rendition Verite owners, please read....

by Michael E. Carve » Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:00:00


: It's a known problem, and has been fixed in the latest Intergraph drivers
: so I would assume Sierra's next revision will do the same.  As far as
: Indysafe, what kind of processor do you have?

: >(2) I can only run ICR2 using the 'Indysafe' exe...

To the best of my knowledge the DMA version of ICR2 will not run in a
Windows DOS box.  If you have a non-Intel CPU, you may need to get the
patch for the Rendtion version.  If you are trying to run in it DOS, you
will probably need to run DMADIAG.EXE before ICR2.

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Rick Williamso

Rendition Verite owners, please read....

by Rick Williamso » Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:00:00


:It's a known problem, and has been fixed in the latest Intergraph drivers
:so I would assume Sierra's next revision will do the same.  As far as
:Indysafe, what kind of processor do you have?

Have you heard anything about when Sierra's next revision of drivers will
be available?

Rick

Rich

Rendition Verite owners, please read....

by Rich » Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:00:00

Eric,
 What is the "latest" version of the Intergraph drivers?

Rich



Tom Hanse

Rendition Verite owners, please read....

by Tom Hanse » Thu, 19 Jun 1997 04:00:00

Ditto.  On a Pentium 200 with an Integraph card.

Kevin Gardne

Rendition Verite owners, please read....

by Kevin Gardne » Sat, 21 Jun 1997 04:00:00

Dave...

The screen blanking is just a fluke of the way the Rendition chips
initializes in Win95.  Normal behavior.

The big factor on DMA mode support appars to be the quality of the
motherboard.  If you have PCI 2.0 slots instead of PCI 2.1 slots, you
will experence low or no DMA performance.  The Rendition DMA modes
require Bus Mastering capability on the motherboard.  However there is a
workaround.  Run WIN95, then shutdown WIN95 using the "Restart computer
In MS_DOS Mode" option.  Then run INDYFAST or RENDDMA.

Also, for better performance at minimal graphics quality cost, run
NASREND or RENDDMA with the -4 option.

Kevin

Michael E. Carve

Rendition Verite owners, please read....

by Michael E. Carve » Sat, 21 Jun 1997 04:00:00


: Eric,
:  What is the "latest" version of the Intergraph drivers?

I believe the version is 4.03.00.2113, the beta testing is getting close to
being finished for their next version.

http://www.intergraph.com/ics/I3D100/support.htm
as of 6/13/97

Windows 95 Driver is nearly complete...final beta test feedback is
positive!

The Win95 driver is complete and in our final beta testing cycle right
now. ICS Solutions Center, our customer support organization, will be
distributing the beta version to our current customer beta testers over
the next few days as our certification testing is performed. We would
like to invite some more beta testers to participate. If you would like
to obtain the driver, please contact the Solutions Center at
1-800-226-4891. (We are sorry that we cannot accept email requests at
this time due to the volume but we believe this will get our beta
program moving swiftly.)

Intergraph apologizes for the high level of frustration the delays have
caused many of our customers. We believe you will find the new Windows
95 drivers are very stable and of high quality. They include a new
properties sheet, better performance, RRedline API support*, a new
install and uninstall shield, and several important and frequently
requested fixes. Intergraph's product quality philosophy is that we
should provide significant feature and/or performance deltas in driver
updates only after full test cycles to minimize the risk of introducing
bugs and poor quality. While many customers prefer this approach since
it minimizes their risk; other customers want to see quicker iterations
of driver updates.

We are listening to our customers and we appreciate your feedback.
Moving forward, we will strike a balance in the middle of these two
ends. We will continue to provide the high quality Intergraph customers
expect with less incremental differences between driver updates to allow
for quicker iterations.

Thank you for being an Intergraph customer.

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Bob

Rendition Verite owners, please read....

by Bob » Sat, 21 Jun 1997 04:00:00


> Dave...

> The screen blanking is just a fluke of the way the Rendition chips
> initializes in Win95.  Normal behavior.

> The big factor on DMA mode support appars to be the quality of the
> motherboard.  If you have PCI 2.0 slots instead of PCI 2.1 slots, you
> will experence low or no DMA performance.  The Rendition DMA modes
> require Bus Mastering capability on the motherboard.  However there is a
> workaround.  Run WIN95, then shutdown WIN95 using the "Restart computer
> In MS_DOS Mode" option.  Then run INDYFAST or RENDDMA.

> Also, for better performance at minimal graphics quality cost, run
> NASREND or RENDDMA with the -4 option.

> Kevin

I don't know about this PCI 2.1 requirement.  I have a Micronics M54Hi
motherboard which is only PCI 2.0 as far as I know, and busmastering
seems to work just fine since I get a score of 88.7 on DMADIAG.  There
must be some PCI 2.0 mb's which do in fact support bus mastering,
although I'd definitely agree with you that it would probably only be on
higher quality boards.

Bob

UnserFa

Rendition Verite owners, please read....

by UnserFa » Tue, 24 Jun 1997 04:00:00

Is there ANY way an unlucky sap like me with a PCI 2.0 bus Acer Aspire
Pentium 133 made in October '95 could get full performance in Indyfast?

Loren

Eric Ruh

Rendition Verite owners, please read....

by Eric Ruh » Tue, 24 Jun 1997 04:00:00


> Is there ANY way an unlucky sap like me with a PCI 2.0 bus Acer Aspire

> Pentium 133 made in October '95 could get full performance in
> Indyfast?

> Loren

Get a new motherboard.  They're less expensive than video cards now and
easier to swap than you think.  A local computer shop will do the swap
for you if you prefer.  Other than that, good luck.
Eric Ruh

Rendition Verite owners, please read....

by Eric Ruh » Tue, 24 Jun 1997 04:00:00


> Is there ANY way an unlucky sap like me with a PCI 2.0 bus Acer Aspire

> Pentium 133 made in October '95 could get full performance in
> Indyfast?

> Loren

Get a new motherboard.  They're less expensive than video cards now and
easier to swap than you think.  A local computer shop will do the swap
for you if you prefer.  Other than that, good luck.
Doug152

Rendition Verite owners, please read....

by Doug152 » Tue, 24 Jun 1997 04:00:00


>Is there ANY way an unlucky sap like me with a PCI 2.0 bus Acer Aspire
>Pentium 133 made in October '95 could get full performance in Indyfast?
>Loren

Sure, I had an Intel Endeavor PCI 2.0 motherboard made in July/August '95,
and it ran Indyfast great,  as well as Renddma Nascar2.

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