rec.autos.simulators

Hi cowgirls.  Just noticed something about GP2 that bears discussion
(maybe).  While chicane cutting will normally eanr you a black flag, I
noticed that at Silverstone (I think it was), I was able to cut across a
part of the Abbey chicane without penalty.  I think I did the same thing
at the windy back-and-forth section whose name escapes me.  While this
may not even improve one's overall time, is there a way to determine
whether or not someone's been a'cheatin'?  Something in the Analyser,
perhaps?

Wipe your hands on the dead baboons.

Generally, you won't be black flagged if you are applying the brakes
when you leave the track (as it recognises that it's likely to be due
to driver error rather than "cheating").

Guess that you need to look at a replay of the lap in question since
this offers pretty good proof. IMHO "legal" laps should have at least
two wheels on the tarmac at all times.

Richard

Frank

The way I see it - if you leave the track without grinding down the plank
on the rumble strip then you won't be black flaged

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Is there anything to be gained by cutting the chicanes? In Adelaide, for
example, I usually drive to the first chicane (just after the
Bstart/finish) just a tad too fast (in race, 4th instead of 3rd, in Q just
some kms too fast), usually kissing the curbing on the right front wheels,
pitching the right side into air (sometimes all 4 wheels leave the
tarmac), get some oversteer & have to correct it. Sometimes I can get
through with 4th, sometimes I drop to 3rd (auto g's) or even spin off. My
times are in the low 1,16's with the best lap being 1,15,7something  (WITH
hitting a backmarker in the rear during the lap :). The lap record was
also in the low 1,16's.

So my question is this: is cutting the chicanes where they can be cut
(Spa-final corner, Monza 1st chic) any better in lap time than going the
"right" way? Most of the time seems it isn't, the car gets all crossed up
(of course that depends on the setup) & you end up losing time. IS cutting
cheating or using every bit of the track AND MORE?
Whaddayasay?

Also, I  think the different setups can get you only so far: once you've
got a "right" setup on (something that's relatively competitive, within
1-1,5 sec), you'll probably improve your time more with learning the track
inside out, learning the latest braking points possible, the highest entry
speeds & so on than by setting minute changes in your setup. Just MHO,
though. (Of course, if you don't have the setup, the time WON'T be there
either. It's worth downloading the record-braking setups, if you don't
wish to find them yourself.)

Seppo

This will leave you at full throttle,  perfectly setup for
the apex of the fast approaching left hander.  This method
leaves you a little slower through the chicane, but much
faster around the left hander and up the straight to the
first of the 2nd gear 90 degree'ers.  You should be nearing
the top of fifth gear before changing down to second.

You want to be reaching higher speeds on fast stretches of
track, and sacrificing some corner speed beforehand in
order to get on the power sooner.  It's not much, but worth
a few hundredths.  A prime example is the 3rd/4th gear right
hander at Jerez when pulling onto the straight.  A bit slower
on the turnin lets you accelerate all the way through the
corner and pull much more speed down the straight.

In terms of cutting chicanes in general, look at the curbing
and judge whether it's going to be smooth sailing or not.  If
you and/or your car setup can get through without unsettling
the chassis too much, and you can make a curve into a straight
line - then do it!  If you can cut a curb OK but it doesn't
straighten your line, there isn't much point.  Consider where
you want to be on the exit as well.

Jet (and they say the game isn't in depth enough - garbage)