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I think it is the same on all computers, well it is on mine.  Can't remember exactly what times I did but I always seem to do a faster lap in the race than in qualifying.  It might be because you have less fuel towards the end of the race as I don't seem to do faster laps until near the end.  Otherwise it could just be just a programming error which seems more likely.
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What are some updated F1GP lap times?  I have a file, but it's almost a
year old now, and I suspect that the times are improved.  

Also, how are the records kept?  Are they by computer timer or human timer?
I find that at Mexico, during a race I can pull of (once) 1:09.887, where
as in quallifing for that race, the best I could get was a 1:14.???.  
However, again if I quallify, but this time have a friend on a watch do
the timing, I pull of 1:08's.  Is this the same on all computers?

Thanks
Later,

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I think he meant he got better times when he time the lap with a watch.
And the reason for that is because differences in the equipments we have,
some computers runs faster than others(or slower for that matter), and
everyone would also run different frame rates etc...  the program
will try to adjust(for the lack of a better word) to the setup so that
we can all get equal times.  So you don't get better times if you have a
faster comuter.  As for runing faster laps in race than in qualifying,
that has never happened to me.  But you do get better lap times towards
the end of the race, and that is because the race starts with full fuel
load, the tank would be empty towards the end, lighter weight means you
can go faster.  Of course fresh *** helps too.....
-Huan :)

Why are you using a watch to time your laps????? The game is timing the
laps itself...

If you are using a watch to time the laps, there is bound to be variations
between computers, not to mention that you can't accurately see the exact time
you are starting/finishing a lap.

                        -TPP

I wanted a timing independent of the computer...as you can see I thought the
computer was wrong (and it was) so how could I use the computer to test this?

I agree...however I'm not spilting hairs here with the time.  I'm talking like
up to six seconds off when qualifying.  Also, before someone mentioned the fuel
thing.  In the book, it states that the fuel you quallify with is more
combustable then race fuel because effiency is not important.  Also you use
Qualifying tires...which are far and away better then 'D' compound.  Also
grouve?  No.  I usualyl spent 10-11 laps qualifying.  On most tracks my
quallifying times kick my race times (you can run a lighter setup too), but not
in Mexico.
As for the hardware differences...wouldn't the clock in the car be linked with
the computer clock?  It would only seem reasonable.  Also the computer says..in
this second what happend?  The frame rate determines howmany pictures to show
during that second.  So hardware should not be a factor.

Hopefully they will have this fixed in F1GP 2.

Later,

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What computer have you  got ? I would be surprised if you did this
time on a PC. My guess is that you have an Amiga in which case,
yes, the times you can do are faster. My best Qualifying time on
F1GP at Mexico is 1:12.34 and that IMO is very close to the track
limit.

We have a BBS league here in UK and one guy has been uploading
times from his Amiga - he has put over 1 second on my time. Now he
has a PC he can't get near it. :)

Really! :-)

Regards,

          Louis

Louis Carresi

Fidonet  : 2:441/86 or 2:441/85

Yes, I know what you mean about track limit.  However, we (me and a
friend) got playing with car setups and gears until we found the perfect
(or as close as we could find) setup for out driving style.

I run on a 386DX/40 16M of RAM, and 1M on the video card.  I play with
texture off so that I can have the frame rate at about 20.5ish and still
get an average of only 80% processor occupation.

A hint to beat 1:12's, on the back S's, don't follow the computers line.  
The car can actually be pushed a lot faster through them on a different line.
I go through in such a way that you can go through them full throtle and
just costing for a second at the enterence/exit of the 3rd gear "S" and part
way through the 4th gear "s".

Later,

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|>
|> A hint to beat 1:12's, on the back S's, don't follow the computers line.  
|> The car can actually be pushed a lot faster through them on a different line.
|> I go through in such a way that you can go through them full throtle and
|> just costing for a second at the enterence/exit of the 3rd gear "S" and part
|> way through the 4th gear "s".
|>

Ahh, so you cut corners I take it. There are a number of courses where you
can cut corners and get away with it. That can take 4-8 seconds off your lap
times depending on how many and which corners you cut. Makes your times look
great compared to computer cars, but you're only fooling yourself if that's
what you're doing.

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No, I don't believe he is cutting corners, just using different lines
there is more than one line through some corners ya know...
-Huan :)

Where out of what I said did you get that I cut corners??????  All I said
was that if you take a different LINE then the computer then you can go
faster THROUGH the corners not ACROSSED the corners.  What the heck would
be the point in posting a time when I cut corners?  My time is for
Mexico, not for the Mexico the way I think it should be.  If people cut
corners, then claim to get a best lap, they're lying becuase there not
racing the same course.  All they are doing is using i.e Mexico, as some
sort of rough guid as to where to go.  Also I have seen people race
Mexico and try to beat my times by cutting corners...never works
here...other tracks yes (Germany big time) but not Mexico.

In the future, please do not asume that I cheat, becuase I do not, and I
will not.  It's just not good sport.

Later,

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