....ok
/Borchers
I would have described it to the closest we have got to some _serious_
considerations of getting an enthusiast group together (such as ras) to
fund a *** simulator, as there was no other likely way of it
happening.
The "real world" prevents Papyrus from producing another title of
milestone proportion like GPL. It would also appear to have prevented
WSC. Breaking away from the traditional developer/publisher environment
seems the only route to creating a genuine leap forward for us
"***" guys.
I would suggest ras is closest to influencing the Wests project than any
other professional development.
I would also have thought ras as a collective group would be welcoming
the chance to be involved with this project and support the Wests. They
have a lot more to lose than we do.
I hope those dismissing this as a joke find themselves on a banned list
come purchase time.
Tony
On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:22:27 GMT, "Tony Rickard"
>I would have described it to the closest we have got to some _serious_
>considerations of getting an enthusiast group together (such as ras) to
>fund a *** simulator, as there was no other likely way of it
>happening.
>The "real world" prevents Papyrus from producing another title of
>milestone proportion like GPL. It would also appear to have prevented
>WSC. Breaking away from the traditional developer/publisher environment
>seems the only route to creating a genuine leap forward for us
>"***" guys.
>I hope those dismissing this as a joke find themselves on a banned list
>come purchase time.
>Tony
You clearly dont understand the conecpt at all. This title will never BE in
any shop.
Consider X-Plane. One man, 10,000 users, 1200 3rd party addons.
This business model works -it's proven to do so - and I look forward to you
swallowing your words in a few months time
Doug
> On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:22:27 GMT, "Tony Rickard"
> >It is amazing how this announcement has stirred such extremes.
> >I would have described it to the closest we have got to some _serious_
> >considerations of getting an enthusiast group together (such as ras) to
> >fund a *** simulator, as there was no other likely way of it
> >happening.
> >The "real world" prevents Papyrus from producing another title of
> >milestone proportion like GPL. It would also appear to have prevented
> >WSC. Breaking away from the traditional developer/publisher environment
> >seems the only route to creating a genuine leap forward for us
> >"***" guys.
> >I hope those dismissing this as a joke find themselves on a banned list
> >come purchase time.
> >Tony
I knew when i wrote just 'shop' i should have said "shop"
instead...ggg:)
X-plane has been going now for how many years?...10?
And it's still a far cry from perfect...i have a few of friends who
fly big birds in real life and none of them consider X-plane to be
very good...
AeroWinx 747-400 Precision Simulator is an example though that it can
be done, as far as flightmodel and systems are concerned..the gfx
engine is in principle non existant so he can focus on what really
matters. I think that's from one guy aswell..or at least used to be
one guy if i'm not mistaken, ...and it does cost a fortune.
I know the concept can work...
But after seeing how things went with WSC i just have some severe
doubts the west guys are capable of the same thing..
And by the way...i'll be just as happy as you when i'll have to
swallow my words, in a few months time no less.
On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 14:06:53 +0100, "Doug Ellison"
>>actually getting a game into the shops..
>You clearly dont understand the conecpt at all. This title will never BE in
>any shop.
>Consider X-Plane. One man, 10,000 users, 1200 3rd party addons.
>This business model works -it's proven to do so - and I look forward to you
>swallowing your words in a few months time
>Doug
That was a legal issue as they wanted to do this with the backing of a
publisher. THey are now going alone - without a publisher. They have 100%
control over the project themselves.
Doug
But this is WSC, it's about a year since things went wrong with Empire
there's no way they could've started from scratch to release it "later this
year".
Another clue is that on their *** that were running WSC while the were
starting the Racing Legends stuff, so they did still have the code even
after they had parted with Empire.
Well said, Tony. I hope the Wests will succeed and ignore the cheap posters
in this group.
Bye,
Leo
Indeed. Why stop at banning us from purchasing the game ? Hell, why not get a law passed
that will permit the government to completely strip away are civil liberties. Then we
should be put in the Tower of London as an example to any other misguided individuals that
may be contemplating posting any kind of doubtful remarks that concern computer games that
haven't been made yet.
Well said, Tony. What a guy.
Nah - more like
Welcome to the West's online purchasing store.
Unfortunately you appear to have stumbled across the unwarranted extravagancy
items page
Please wait whilst you are automatically redirected to your preferred "Just
Another Computer Game" Store...
Obviously all remarks from me are obsessive, serious & humourless cos that is
what "people like us" are like - thanks for pointing it out.
Tony
> > > I hope those dismissing this as a joke find themselves on a banned list
> > > come purchase time.
> > Indeed. Why stop at banning us from purchasing the game ? Hell, why not get a
> law passed
> <snip>
> Nah - more like
> Welcome to the West's online purchasing store.
> Unfortunately you appear to have stumbled across the unwarranted extravagancy
> items page
> Please wait whilst you are automatically redirected to your preferred "Just
> Another Computer Game" Store...
> Obviously all remarks from me are obsessive, serious & humourless cos that is
> what "people like us" are like - thanks for pointing it out.
Make me? Nobody makes me do anything.
Apart from the wife of course, but that's not the point. Oh yeah, and the boss.
The kids as well I suppose. John Simmons too - but everybody does what he says,
so that doesn't count. I'm a law abiding soul so I would have to add the
government, local councillors and the law enforcement services too. But apart
from that (and probably a few others) I make my own mind up, ok?
Your obedient servant
Tony
It was all going swimmingly until you mentioned jsimmons. Shame
