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by **Marc Collin** » Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:31:50

I just inexplicably lost about 7 to 12 fps in N4!?!?!?!

And this is accurate as I did extensive controlled testing in both D3D and
OpenGL, full field and test sessions and I am looking at the spreadsheet I
used right now. Solid, consistent results for about 2 weeks until
yesterday. I have added nothing to my system. I have changed no settings.
Same hardware, same software. The only thing I did was play around with the
oc'ing sliders in the nVIDEA control panel--which seemed to slow down the
game when pushed upwards!!! Now I have reset it back to "normal" (oc'ing
off) and I have lost substantial performance....?? This is bizarre.

For the record, I gained decent fps by switching to the nVIDEA 6.50 drivers
and DX8.0a. I was very happy with the performance of my rig--now it is
approaching borderline. I have lots of RAM and there is no disk activity
whatsoever when using N4. I can't explain it.

I will uninstall and re-install the video drivers, since I have already
tried resetting the N4 graphic config a couple of times...although the
read-out on the black set-up screen looks identical each time.

I am definitely frustrated. Computers are supposed to be logical and
consistent!

Marc.

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by **Peter Walke** » Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:01:00

Bizzare? More than likely you may have damaged the CPU on your video card by
the overclocking. Once damage, you will be stuck with what you are lucky to
end up with.

Its not meant to be a flame, but that is what has happened and it's no
wonder you've suffered the fps lost.

Peter Walker
Bagus51

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> Marc Collins

> Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
> to take effect. Reboot now?

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by **Slic** » Sat, 10 Mar 2001 05:35:05

I doubt that... unless Marc experiences the same thing with different
games...
I have also noticed the frame rate drop after 70 laps at Glen it seems more
like a memory leak issue...
If and when that happens I turn of the lightmaps and gain around 20 fps...
I have the game supplied DX and 6.31 detonators...

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Oliver

by **Peter Walke** » Sat, 10 Mar 2001 06:58:37

But he said in his post, it was AFTER trying the overclock.

Peter Walker
Bagus51

> I doubt that... unless Marc experiences the same thing with different
> games...
> I have also noticed the frame rate drop after 70 laps at Glen it seems
more
> like a memory leak issue...
> If and when that happens I turn of the lightmaps and gain around 20 fps...
> I have the game supplied DX and 6.31 detonators...

> --

> Oliver

> > Bizzare? More than likely you may have damaged the CPU on your video
card
> by
> > the overclocking. Once damage, you will be stuck with what you are lucky
> to
> > end up with.

> > Its not meant to be a flame, but that is what has happened and it's no
> > wonder you've suffered the fps lost.

> > Peter Walker
> > Bagus51

by **Slic** » Sat, 10 Mar 2001 06:30:51

I have heard about similar issues when o'cing the 6.50's! Try the 6.31 with
the same setup!

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Oliver

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> Marc Collins

> Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
> to take effect. Reboot now?

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by **Marc Collin** » Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:14:34

Good deduction, but I am not sure that if the video card was damaged it
would slow down...if its CPU was damaged, you would get errors, bad
graphics, lock-ups, etc. It may be that the overclocking (supported in the
video card's control panel) set some registry setting somewhere that is now
causing the general slowdown. I haven't monitored other game's frame rates
close enough to know whether it is affecting them...my system is capable of
running GPL at 36 fps pretty consistently. It is much easier to tell with
N4, because it doesn't have the artificial cap on fps.

Marc.

> But he said in his post, it was AFTER trying the overclock.

> Peter Walker
> Bagus51

> > I doubt that... unless Marc experiences the same thing with different
> > games...
> > I have also noticed the frame rate drop after 70 laps at Glen it seems
> more
> > like a memory leak issue...
> > If and when that happens I turn of the lightmaps and gain around 20
fps...
> > I have the game supplied DX and 6.31 detonators...

> > --

> > Oliver

> > > Bizzare? More than likely you may have damaged the CPU on your video
> card
> > by
> > > the overclocking. Once damage, you will be stuck with what you are
lucky
> > to
> > > end up with.

> > > Its not meant to be a flame, but that is what has happened and it's no
> > > wonder you've suffered the fps lost.

> > > Peter Walker
> > > Bagus51

by **Marc Collin** » Sat, 10 Mar 2001 10:15:47

Really--that once you adjust the overclock it does weird things and won't
reset when you turn it off? I just want to make sure it's that specific.

Thanks,

Marc.

> I have heard about similar issues when o'cing the 6.50's! Try the 6.31
with
> the same setup!

> --

> Oliver

> > I just inexplicably lost about 7 to 12 fps in N4!?!?!?!

> > And this is accurate as I did extensive controlled testing in both D3D
and
> > OpenGL, full field and test sessions and I am looking at the spreadsheet
I
> > used right now. Solid, consistent results for about 2 weeks until
> > yesterday. I have added nothing to my system. I have changed no
> settings.
> > Same hardware, same software. The only thing I did was play around with
> the
> > oc'ing sliders in the nVIDEA control panel--which seemed to slow down
the
> > game when pushed upwards!!! Now I have reset it back to "normal"
(oc'ing
> > off) and I have lost substantial performance....?? This is bizarre.

> > For the record, I gained decent fps by switching to the nVIDEA 6.50
> drivers
> > and DX8.0a. I was very happy with the performance of my rig--now it is
> > approaching borderline. I have lots of RAM and there is no disk
activity
> > whatsoever when using N4. I can't explain it.

> > I will uninstall and re-install the video drivers, since I have already
> > tried resetting the N4 graphic config a couple of times...although the
> > read-out on the black set-up screen looks identical each time.

> > I am definitely frustrated. Computers are supposed to be logical and
> > consistent!

> > Marc.

> > --

****************************************************************************

> > Marc Collins

> > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
> > to take effect. Reboot now?

****************************************************************************

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by **Slic** » Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:35:10

Do you have apply on startup checked? Try uncheck and oc'ing prior to
starting N4...
What card do you have?

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Oliver

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