rec.autos.simulators

Listen, you don't want to know where to get it as once you go down the
dark side, it will consume your life. Warez is no good, buy it and try
it or if they have rental shops over where you live, try it that way.

Dave

--
Don Burnette
Dburn in N3 and Legends

Somehow I have to agree.  In the good old days of C64s, I had literally
fileboxes full of copied discs.  I think every 15 year old kid did at the
time, and I really wonder who actually bought the games.  I imagine I bought
a few, because this was before the days of easy net access and a 300baud
modem was a speedster, so we had to form some sort of supply chain.  But in
the end, I had many copies.  I was raised "well", and yet I had no m***
qualms about this.  Perhaps it was my age, or perhaps it was because it was
a faceless crime - I didn't have to sneak the discs out from under the nose
of the programmer.  I'm hoping the statute of limitations on these past
misdemeanours has long since run out... I repent!

Right into university it was still possible to make rationalizations for
software piracy ("I'm a starving student; let the large companies pay Lotus
full bucks for their over-priced 1-2-4 software"). It didn't immediately
dawn on me that perhaps I was part of the reason why Lotus 1-2-3 cost 400
bucks.  Even after my first job change, there was that moment of uncertainty
when you ask yourself "do I really *have* to uninstall the program that I
was running under the previous company's license".  The piracy mindset is
insidious and difficult to shake.

In a way, shaking the attitude requires a concerted effort.  I had to wipe
my harddrive and vow to rebuild it with my own software.  Buying bargains
helps, like finding Corel 7 for 80 bucks instead of Corel 9 for 300 etc.,
resisting the urge to upgrade office suites every year etc.  Demos
(official, from the company) helped a lot with my game buying choices.  And
I am sure that if I, in a moment of weakness, downloaded a warez version of
a game, I might not follow through on the purchase, even if I liked it.
Perhaps a lot of the people in this group will, but I suspect a lot will not
(ask yourself why people want the intro movie to "evaluate" the software).
If I end up buying a dud of a game, I forget about it, consider it a little
bit of social economics by prolonging the employment of some overworked
coder who most likely had to submit to the whims of the marketing department
:-)

This is just one person's opionion, of course, but my own stand on the issue
now is to wait for the official demo, or do without.  Most purchases are
based on the same level of "sampling" as a demo allows, if that much.  You
read the back cover of a book before you buy, you hear a song on the radio
and decide to buy the CD, you taste a wine before deciding to accept the
bottle. I approach this not as an unblemished example of an upstanding
software user, but rather as a repentant sinner.  By the way, if anyone
knows who programmed Electronic Arts' "Drol" back in the 80's, let me know
so I can slip him a few bucks - man I liked that game.  I've already vowed
to go buy the updated version of "Lode Runner" just to make amends.
Conscience... funny thing.

Stephen

Ohh, tough talk "yves" - "your.very.dumb" oooh, i'm soooo upset!.
What's your problem with my posting a link? take a look around, a
couple hundred people at least have downloaded that warez version and
are talking about it here, there's nothing wrong with trying it out,
most of us who have downloaded the warez version will buy it anyway.

Man, i just can't believe you posted a followup just to say that, what
a lame, prudish politically correct gimp you are, if you don't like
warez or the links being posted don't visit them, simple as that.
Anyway, here's the link again, just for the record.
http://zillionwarez.cjb.net/ ;-)

I wonder how many people whining about warez versions of F12000 have a hard
drive full of mp3's?

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"I am tougher than a $2 steak" - Norman Smiley

If the guy simply can't check the messages of the previous day to get a
hint, then they shouldn't be given the URL.  Why has everything to be like I
said earlier given on a golden plateau?.  Just tell them to use DEJA.com and
research for it.  There has been mention of this URL at least a dozen times.

Most of the people here don't mind with the whole situation.  We just demand
to keep a little privacy.  You could had emailed him the URL instead.
Promoting warez websites is not really the best way to professionaly create
a newsgroup where we can co-work with game developpers.

http://www.deja.com/usenet/   (stupid Deja restructuration hehe)
.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

BB

Most of the people here don't mind with the whole situation.  We just demand
to keep a little privacy.

--DK