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It doesn't feel realistic at all, sorry that's how the demo gives us the
impression of the game.  You can only drive with the keyboard, so ColinMcRae
"the demo" is superior.  Whatever it's alpha or beta I don't care, a demo is
a demonstration of a product, and if they show us  that it's not finished
well it's their fault, not ours. (not talking to you about that eesendon,
just to some people on r.a.s. )  ;)

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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

BUT I love the***pit view - and there are enough view options to please
everyone.  The stage is a challenge.  It's very narrow (as it should be),
fairly long (10 minutes is a storming time - my best is around 11:15) and
for me, graphically very pleasing (PIII450, V3).  You can't just nail the
gas like in CMR, you've got to tread carefully.  The pace notes are far more
comprehensive than CMR and although many have complained about the slightly
disjointed and relaxed nature of the co-driver, I like him.  Going back to
CMR I get annoyed with Nicky for not giving me enough info.
I haven't found any invisible walls so far - you can end up in ditches or
way off track, but there are the usual invincible wooden fences.  I can live
with that.
Is it arcade or sim?  Well, it certainly is a challenge, and if the handling
isn't as sweetly honed as something like GPL you certainly can't just floor
it.  I'd say it's a valliant effort at a sim.  Arcade racing to me is
something that anyone can pick up and get into with minimum effort, and
generally has very little use for a brake pedal (button?).  This is not like
that.

I disliked Europress' previous two rally efforts (Owned full version of RAC,
played friend's copy of RC) but I think I'll end up getting this one.  Even
though the handling doesn't seem to quite hit the spot (yet), there's
nothing else out there that replicates the challenge of threading your way
through the tight, twisty loose stuff like this.

Try the demo.  It's always best to make up your own mind.

Cheers,

Mark
Reading, UK

What about RC'2000 ? Again I had the original RAC (from about 3 years ago) and
I'd say that was the most realistic rally game that I played (hated the
insivible walls though). Anyway, RC'2000 - don't expect GPL level of realism.
It's nothing like it. Though, compared to any other rally game out there this
one is by far the most realistic. The car you drive is a front wheel drive and
it suffers from chonoc front wheel spin, tourque steer and on power
understeer. It feels very much like a Front wheel drive car should. Can
"interact" with scenery (bumps) really well and responds to controls really
well too (keoybord only in the demo is a pain but you can get the feel of the
car anyway). I do agree that the car doesn't seem to have enough bodyroll
(maybe, hopefully it's only a stiff setup) and therefore it's hard to generate
any mometum at the back of the car. This part seems a little bit weak to me,
though I still think the car handles a lot mere realistic than any other rally
game I played before.
BTW, they have a the grvity calculation wring in the demo - the car kindoff
floats though the air a bit, though, they are on it from what I read.

Graphicly the game is stunning. The car is unbelievably awesome and detailed.
You;ll just want to watch it from the TV view :-) track graphics are almost
photo-realistic ... though don't expect it to look like NFS ... it's really a
lot of trees, fences, grass, mud, gravel, tarmac, dithes and hills ... just
like in real life.

Sound is great too.

BTW, absolotelly no invisible walls .. .the only things you can hit are the
things you can see. You can drive 2 lanes of the track, cut corners, go behind
trees and it's all OK with the game :-)

All in all, I think that this is the best rally-sim so far but I still do
hope that they give the car more momentum/inertia (if it's not the setup).
that's really the only flaw in the car physics engine.

Try it,
Regards,
David Mocnay

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Regards,
David Mocnay

That's usually an indicator that a second version is to be put out
soon.

Cheers

Steve

Whitley Bay - North East Coast of England

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Invited some of my real world rallying pals over to play it after
the Ojibwe forest prorally here in the states.  We all agree it seems
like gravity is at about .5g  or something.  The car doesn't hook up,
and has either WAY too much hp, or a serious clutch problem. ^_^
Very very pretty, but rather an alpha we hope.

Here's to hoping for a better internet released demo.

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