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I tried it and I didn't really like it, but others told me it needs a
while to 'rub in'. It's also heavy on system resources, another
disadvantage. But it's not too expensive, so all in all good value for
money I think.

Cheap, both in price and in quality.

The LWGP is a cheap wheel, quite bad quality.
Not recommended unless you really don't want to spend to much money on
a ff wheel.

I don't know this one.. but I just saw the price, 99 Euro, so I guess
it's ***too :)

Too bad, because there you have the 2 best ff wheels available yet.
If you think you're gonna use the ff wheel a lot, I really recommend
to save a bit more money and go for a quality wheel.
I can surely understand people's reactions that ff is only a gimmick
if they only tried it with those el cheapo wheels.
And pedals are just as important as the wheel itself. Both the Momo
and the ACT-Labs have excellent pedals.
It's your call :)

Andre

I have heard very good reports about it however, and you cant go expecting
something to be built like a tank if you cant afford a tank...

the older version is one i am quite familiar with, and has excellent build
quality, for the same price as the new one. admittedly i have heard much
about how the new one doesnt compare, but it has nothing to do with price...
the pedals of the LWFF are however a lil short-reached, but this is easily
solved by going back to the trusty T2 pedals

That's what I said right :)

There are 2 versions of the LWFF (the old red *** wheel) and you
have the LWGP.
I had the old LWFF for 3 years and only replaced it because the new
Logi Momo wheel was even better. There was a 'new' version of the LWFF
released, with a bit more power, a little bit stiffer springs in the
pedals, but the quality of the ff was not as good as of the older
model.

Then the LWGP was released, a cheapo wheel, about half the price of
the LWFF. And it's not good, especially compared to the old LWFF it's
crap. Gears instead of belt-driven, the wheel is not completely from
*** as the LWFF was, bad shifters, and not-so good ff.

And then the Momo came.. enjoying it every day since I bought it,
fantastic ff, great quality. And the wheel is covered with leather :)

Andre

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I can only speak for the MSFF, but as far as that's concerned: on the
plus side, there's the fact that it's very compatible (I do have to
admit that MS make damn good peripherals), pretty tough (compared to
other "affordable" wheels, anyway) and - IMO at least - has a nice feel
to it. (I don't drive IRL, so have no "baggage" from real cars of how a
wheel should feel. That probably makes quite a big difference.)

On the debit side of the ledger, it's undeniable that it is a bit of a
resource hog - reports vary, but the USB version especially might lose
you up to 5 fps on a slower system. I have that version, and on my old
Celeron 500 dropped around 2 fps with FF on, but there's no noticeable
hit at all on my current P4-1.5GHz.

Another thing is that (as Andre says above) it does need a little while
to "bed in". I suspect that it's an acquired taste, and that not
everyone acquires it. Make sure you get one from somewhere with a
decent returns policy, or even test it before you buy.

Put it this way: I'm on my second MSFF, and if it collapsed today I'd
be straight out to buy a third. For 100 pounds, there's nothing else I
feel as comfortable with. If you buy the MSFF, unless you really can't
get on with the "feel", you won't be making a big mistake - what it
*isn't* is a *bad* wheel.

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