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N2 Track Pack? Patch?

Rob Plan

N2 Track Pack? Patch?

by Rob Plan » Sun, 16 Feb 1997 04:00:00

I was wondering if anyone knew what was going to be in the Tracks
Pack and when it was due out for us to buy? I hear that Sega had resigned
Daytona but then the other day I heard that there contract was going to be
up in May, WHAT IS GOING ON?  

I was also wondering if we were ever going to get a patch or not? and if so
what is sierra going to fix and what are they going to ignore?

Why did sierra say that they were going to give us double file restarts and
piting by qual and so on... if they were just going to redo the tracks and
they look great but I could of waited a coupple of months and bought a
product that was  bug free and had every thing that was said to be in it.

Kham0

N2 Track Pack? Patch?

by Kham0 » Mon, 17 Feb 1997 04:00:00

The reason is called Christmas. It is a marketing decision. Software
companies sell as much product during the X-mas season as they do
throughout the rest of the year. Papyrus rushed a product not ready for
release, without all the options it had "teased" that it would have, to
make the Christmas season.

It's all about $$$$$, rather than satisified customers.

Besides, they will put the rest in....a Save game option, the new tracks,
double file starts, and hopefully (1) an engine that doesn't suck all the
power so you can run the graphic options...(2) a game that doesn't crash
every 25 minutes............
in NASCAR 3...which everybody will plau $50.00 for. And they get richer.
:(

SimRaci

N2 Track Pack? Patch?

by SimRaci » Tue, 18 Feb 1997 04:00:00

AFAIK, Papyrus didn't mention double-file restarts, but it may have
been Sierra (no, it ain't the same thing)...Sierra had even gone so far
as to say a track-editor was included!!...Bad CS on Sierra's part.

The save game feature was an obvious oversite, but was left out on
purpose...Papyrus felt (and rightly so) that if couldn't be done right,
don't put it in.  They may have also felt it wasn't an important enough
feature to have, but they do listen to this newsgroup, and IMO that's
why it'll be in an upcoming patch.

I have no problems running N2 with all graphics (except grass/asphalt-
15 opponents) using a Diamond Stealth 2Mb DRAM card on a P100.

With a Canopus card, I draw all ahead, 3 behind, ALL graphics, and -
depending on the track - get anywhere from 24-28fps...

30 fps with grass/asphalt off...18-24 ALL graphics in multiplayer...Not
too bad IMO.  :)

I've had the production version on my system since Dec, and the only
crash was when attempting to save a replay during a modem session.

All in all, N2 is a solid-product (IMHO), but is in need of some tweaking.
The most important (again - IMO) is a fix to the AI problem at some of
the tracks, finish some of the Rendition stuff (aside from anti-alaising),
etc.

While I would like to see something in the form of a patch soon, I feel
that the product I have now is playable, and one which I thoroughly
enjoy.  Of course, my comments are likely to draw fire from those with
differing views...  ;)

Best Regards,

Marc

Marc J. Nelson
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Eric T. Busc

N2 Track Pack? Patch?

by Eric T. Busc » Tue, 18 Feb 1997 04:00:00

I'm pretty sure you can still save between sessions.  It was the
mid-race save feature that was removed.

There's a bug that only allows you to load setups if you did the full
install.  With the minimum install while you can still save setups, the
game looks to load them from the CD instead of the HD.

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Greg Cisk

N2 Track Pack? Patch?

by Greg Cisk » Tue, 18 Feb 1997 04:00:00



OK Thanks.

Well that sounds simple enough to patch... Whats the problem?

:-)

CPDRKITE

N2 Track Pack? Patch?

by CPDRKITE » Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:00:00

"Besides, they will put the rest in....a Save game option, the new tracks,
double file starts, and hopefully (1) an engine that doesn't suck all the
power so you can run the graphic options...(2) a game that doesn't crash
every 25 minutes............
in NASCAR 3...which everybody will plau $50.00 for. And they get richer.
:("

Yeah, if you believe they'll put ALL that in, I've got a bridge I'd like
to sell 'ya.

ChrisP

Hena Hakkane

N2 Track Pack? Patch?

by Hena Hakkane » Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:00:00


> I'm pretty sure you can still save between sessions.  It was the
> mid-race save feature that was removed.

No, you can't. No saving anywhere ... except for setups.


> > Just curious, do you *HAVE* to do the entire race weekend in one
> sitting
> > now?

> > One other thing... What is the deal with saving additional setups?

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Eric T. Busc

N2 Track Pack? Patch?

by Eric T. Busc » Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:00:00

That shows you how much I actually play N2. =)

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Greg Cisk

N2 Track Pack? Patch?

by Greg Cisk » Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:00:00




> > I'm pretty sure you can still save between sessions.  It was the
> > mid-race save feature that was removed.

> No, you can't. No saving anywhere ... except for setups.

Hey... Except you need a FULL install to save/load setups :-)

This sucks quite a bit. There should at the VERY LEAST be a
SAVE-GAME inbetween sessions. If you ask me, this shows
that the game designer was not thinking very clearly.

It also should be fairly straight forward to straighten out.

Don Mullin

N2 Track Pack? Patch?

by Don Mullin » Thu, 20 Feb 1997 04:00:00


> The reason is called Christmas. It is a marketing decision. Software
> companies sell as much product during the X-mas season as they do
> throughout the rest of the year. Papyrus rushed a product not ready for
> release, without all the options it had "teased" that it would have, to
> make the Christmas season.

> It's all about $$$$$, rather than satisified customers.

> Besides, they will put the rest in....a Save game option, the new tracks,
> double file starts, and hopefully (1) an engine that doesn't suck all the
> power so you can run the graphic options...(2) a game that doesn't crash
> every 25 minutes............
> in NASCAR 3...which everybody will plau $50.00 for. And they get richer.
> :(

        Mine doesn't crash. Runs like clockwork.
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