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A road course I would love to see.. Philadelphia

Turne

A road course I would love to see.. Philadelphia

by Turne » Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Hey everyone, especially those of you who know Philadelphia -

http://www.racesimcentral.net/~turner4/Philadelphia/

Here is an image (sorry, a little big) of a road course I would love to
see used for.... whatever.
For those of you unfamiliar with Philadelphia, the section of the track
North on Kelly Drive (parallel to the river), across the bridge, then
south on West River Drive (across the river from Kelly Drive) has some
interesting smaller curves and subtle elevation changes which aren't
apparent on the map.

Originally I thought Formula 1, but it really would lend itself well to
different types of road racing.

Also, I have a few variations, some of which pass directly in front of
the Art Museum.

This, my friends - *this* is why I wish there were track editors
available!

Well, there's some wishful thinking.

Andrew

Turne

A road course I would love to see.. Philadelphia

by Turne » Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:00:00

That is, Northbound at the intersection of 22nd and Benjamin Franklin
Parkway..

Sorry!

Andrew

Uncle Feste

A road course I would love to see.. Philadelphia

by Uncle Feste » Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:00:00


> This, my friends - *this* is why I wish there were track editors
> available!

How long would this track be anyway?  For a track editor, go to
http://www.grandprix2.com/trackedit  I bet this place would be a blast
in GP2.

--
Chuck Kandler
(GPL Handicap of +249.31)
K&S Racing
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kihur..

A road course I would love to see.. Philadelphia

by kihur.. » Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Uhhhh, isn't that one road a big highway? I'm pretty sure that's the
highway we use to come into Philadelphia from here, Reading.

Thanks,
Akex


> Hey everyone, especially those of you who know Philadelphia -

> http://www.voicenet.com/~turner4/Philadelphia/

> Here is an image (sorry, a little big) of a road course I would love to
> see used for.... whatever.
> For those of you unfamiliar with Philadelphia, the section of the track
> North on Kelly Drive (parallel to the river), across the bridge, then
> south on West River Drive (across the river from Kelly Drive) has some
> interesting smaller curves and subtle elevation changes which aren't
> apparent on the map.

> Originally I thought Formula 1, but it really would lend itself well to
> different types of road racing.

> Also, I have a few variations, some of which pass directly in front of
> the Art Museum.

> This, my friends - *this* is why I wish there were track editors
> available!

> Well, there's some wishful thinking.

> Andrew

Scot

A road course I would love to see.. Philadelphia

by Scot » Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Hey guys,

Just make sure it doesn't get near the China zone <VBG>

For those not familiar - that is NOT a racist remark of any kind.  Its just
a big bickering argument between the mayor and various groups over the
location of the new sports stadiums.

Scott
PA-Scott
PowerSims.com

David G Fishe

A road course I would love to see.. Philadelphia

by David G Fishe » Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:00:00

I can't believe this. :-)

I have had the same thoughts too. Same areas of the city. Most of the same
streets actually. Wouldn't it be awesome to have F1 or CART cars ***
around City Hall, and especially up the Benjamin Franklin Parkway to the Art
Museum and through the park? You've even included the Independence Hall
area. Excellent.

Maybe you'd like to work on a track for GP3 together. We can show it to the
mayor and maybe get the ball rolling to bring a CART race here someday. :-)

Actually, it's not that bad an idea. 3/4 of a million come out to see the
bike race each year (last weekend). I'm sure the city would go crazy for an
F1 or CART race.

David G Fisher


Ryan Murra

A road course I would love to see.. Philadelphia

by Ryan Murra » Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Actually, you know something, this COULD work.

Why?

John Street is very open to suggestions. Ed Rendell was a great guy, I'll
always have liked him, but he never suggested bringing the X-Games to
Philadelphia like Street did. From what I hear, John Street is more towards
making Philadelphia a more, how do I put it nicely....maybe hollywood-ized
town.

A F1 race would definately rock. DEFINATELY.

I honestly believe that an email or letter sent to him would garner a reply
by him...be it positive or negative...

I love my city  :)

The steps on the Art Museum is basically a grandstand already   :)

Ryan Murray

Bill Met

A road course I would love to see.. Philadelphia

by Bill Met » Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:00:00


>Here is an image (sorry, a little big) of a road course I would love to
>see used for.... whatever.

Ahhhh.  I see I'm not the only one here who fantasizes about making local
roads into tracks.

You said it.  My greatest sim racing fantasy (as far as tracks go) would
be the ability to go out and get GPS data of my local roads and import it
into a track editor that would make tracks for any sim out there.

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Turne

A road course I would love to see.. Philadelphia

by Turne » Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Hey Ryan,

Yeah, seriously. Of course, we're race fans, but could you imagine the presige
this would bring to this city? (Can I say that? I live in Jersey now) Can you
imaging the $$ it would bring here? And it would certainly prod the local
government on to continue its city renovation projects....

I can see the international coverage on tv..

Should we?

Andrew


> Actually, you know something, this COULD work.

> Why?

> John Street is very open to suggestions. Ed Rendell was a great guy, I'll
> always have liked him, but he never suggested bringing the X-Games to
> Philadelphia like Street did. From what I hear, John Street is more towards
> making Philadelphia a more, how do I put it nicely....maybe hollywood-ized
> town.

> A F1 race would definately rock. DEFINATELY.

> I honestly believe that an email or letter sent to him would garner a reply
> by him...be it positive or negative...

> I love my city  :)

> The steps on the Art Museum is basically a grandstand already   :)

> Ryan Murray

Turne

A road course I would love to see.. Philadelphia

by Turne » Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Hey Dweeb,

Yeah, and it would make a good segment of a road course, huh?

Andrew


> I thought about this when I first got GPL. I take the West River Drive to
> work each day.


> >Hey everyone, especially those of you who know Philadelphia -

> >http://www.voicenet.com/~turner4/Philadelphia/

> >Here is an image (sorry, a little big) of a road course I would love to
> >see used for.... whatever.
> >For those of you unfamiliar with Philadelphia, the section of the track
> >North on Kelly Drive (parallel to the river), across the bridge, then
> >south on West River Drive (across the river from Kelly Drive) has some
> >interesting smaller curves and subtle elevation changes which aren't
> >apparent on the map.

> >Originally I thought Formula 1, but it really would lend itself well to
> >different types of road racing.

> >Also, I have a few variations, some of which pass directly in front of
> >the Art Museum.

> >This, my friends - *this* is why I wish there were track editors
> >available!

> >Well, there's some wishful thinking.

> >Andrew

Turne

A road course I would love to see.. Philadelphia

by Turne » Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Hi Uncle F.,

I'm not sure how long the course would be - I'll have to drive it to find
out, or scale and estimate it-- probably about 4.5 miles or so... Anybody
from here want to estimate?

Thanks for pointing out the link below - I've never heard of it. Looks
good.

regards,
Andrew



> > This, my friends - *this* is why I wish there were track editors
> > available!

> How long would this track be anyway?  For a track editor, go to
> http://www.grandprix2.com/trackedit  I bet this place would be a blast
> in GP2.

> --
> Chuck Kandler
> (GPL Handicap of +249.31)
> K&S Racing
> http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195

Turne

A road course I would love to see.. Philadelphia

by Turne » Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:00:00

No, you're thinking of I-76, the Schuylkill Expressway - AKA the "Sure Kill"
Expressway - no, actually, it avoids that whole disaster...

regards,
Andrew


> Uhhhh, isn't that one road a big highway? I'm pretty sure that's the
> highway we use to come into Philadelphia from here, Reading.

> Thanks,
> Akex


> > Hey everyone, especially those of you who know Philadelphia -

> > http://www.voicenet.com/~turner4/Philadelphia/

> > Here is an image (sorry, a little big) of a road course I would love to
> > see used for.... whatever.
> > For those of you unfamiliar with Philadelphia, the section of the track
> > North on Kelly Drive (parallel to the river), across the bridge, then
> > south on West River Drive (across the river from Kelly Drive) has some
> > interesting smaller curves and subtle elevation changes which aren't
> > apparent on the map.

> > Originally I thought Formula 1, but it really would lend itself well to
> > different types of road racing.

> > Also, I have a few variations, some of which pass directly in front of
> > the Art Museum.

> > This, my friends - *this* is why I wish there were track editors
> > available!

> > Well, there's some wishful thinking.

> > Andrew

Turne

A road course I would love to see.. Philadelphia

by Turne » Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Hey David,

Is there supposed to be an editor for GP3?

The track itself would be, I guess, fairly straighforward.. the topography would
be tricky, and Center City? Ouch! That would be tough. This is why I wish some
of the companies developing new racing sims would have a "what is your fantasy
course?" contest, where you could propose something like this and the software
company would foot the bill to include it in the sim if you won!

Yeah, I've fantasized about an F1 race here for quite some time now.. the
course, I'm sure, would change a little..

regards!
Andrew


> I can't believe this. :-)

> I have had the same thoughts too. Same areas of the city. Most of the same
> streets actually. Wouldn't it be awesome to have F1 or CART cars ***
> around City Hall, and especially up the Benjamin Franklin Parkway to the Art
> Museum and through the park? You've even included the Independence Hall
> area. Excellent.

> Maybe you'd like to work on a track for GP3 together. We can show it to the
> mayor and maybe get the ball rolling to bring a CART race here someday. :-)

> Actually, it's not that bad an idea. 3/4 of a million come out to see the
> bike race each year (last weekend). I'm sure the city would go crazy for an
> F1 or CART race.

> David G Fisher



> > Hey everyone, especially those of you who know Philadelphia -

> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/~turner4/Philadelphia/

> > Here is an image (sorry, a little big) of a road course I would love to
> > see used for.... whatever.
> > For those of you unfamiliar with Philadelphia, the section of the track
> > North on Kelly Drive (parallel to the river), across the bridge, then
> > south on West River Drive (across the river from Kelly Drive) has some
> > interesting smaller curves and subtle elevation changes which aren't
> > apparent on the map.

> > Originally I thought Formula 1, but it really would lend itself well to
> > different types of road racing.

> > Also, I have a few variations, some of which pass directly in front of
> > the Art Museum.

> > This, my friends - *this* is why I wish there were track editors
> > available!

> > Well, there's some wishful thinking.

> > Andrew

Kirk Lan

A road course I would love to see.. Philadelphia

by Kirk Lan » Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Yeah, I really wish we had trackeditors...I would love to make a few
streetcourses based on the local roads...coincedentally the track goes right
in front of my house =)

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Schlom

A road course I would love to see.. Philadelphia

by Schlom » Wed, 14 Jun 2000 04:00:00

I've also had this fantasy :)  I actually have a couple paper drawings of
courses i would like to drive (mostly combining really cool sections of public
road).  No courses that could actually exist cause I do the virutal "cut &
paste" of road sections together.  But still...I have some ideas that would
really rock.

Chris


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