rec.autos.simulators

> ALL
> high res (>= 1024x768)
> able to use multi-texturing
> support D3D and OGL
> don't support Glide

> ====TNT====
> runs hot
> very good 2D quality (at res < 1280 x 1024)
> very good 3D quality
> slower at 32-bit 3D than Rage128 or Savage3D
> 100 MHz / 0.35 micron / 16MB
> about $100 mail order (creative labs)

> ====RAGE128====
> just Tom's runs hot
> very good 2D quality at all res
> very good 3D quality (maybe a little better than TNT)
> quickest at 32-bit hi-res
> hardware DVD decoder on chip
> 125MHz / 0.25 micron / 32MB
> about $170 mail order (if in-stock)

> ====SAVAGE3D====
> no temperature problems
> very good 2D quality at all res
> good 3D quality (maybe a little less than TNT)
> faster than TNT at 32-bit 3D but slower than Rage128
> 125MHz / 0.25 micron / 8MB (+ compression for D3D)
> about $70 mail order

> i will be triple-booting NT4 SP4 / Win98 / Linux.  for games, strictly
> racing sims (and because of this i'm thinking i maybe should add a Banshee
> in my list for Glide support but resolution limited to 800 x 600 right?)

> any suggestions / comments??  when can we expect Rage128 price to come down?
> when TNT2 / Voodoo3 comes out?

> Actually the Banshee will support up to 1920x1440 res.  I'm not sure what the
> max res is in Glide games, but it'll do 1024x768 in OpenGL.  It is limited to
> 16.7M colours, but has support for D3D, MiniGL and Glide.  I bought the Diamond
> Monster Fusion which has the built in fan, and it runs nice and cool.  The only
> possible drawback is the missing second texture chip, but framerates are still
> very playable in multi-texture games.  JMHO.

> Zog

> > gonna upgrade my diamond viper v330 and plan on a TNT or Rage128 or
> > Savage3D.  i've been reading a lot of posts here and would like some
> > assistance in gathering all of this data together.  would you guys please
> > comment on what i've summarized below.

> > ALL
> > high res (>= 1024x768)
> > able to use multi-texturing
> > support D3D and OGL
> > don't support Glide

> > ====TNT====
> > runs hot
> > very good 2D quality (at res < 1280 x 1024)
> > very good 3D quality
> > slower at 32-bit 3D than Rage128 or Savage3D
> > 100 MHz / 0.35 micron / 16MB
> > about $100 mail order (creative labs)

> > ====RAGE128====
> > just Tom's runs hot
> > very good 2D quality at all res
> > very good 3D quality (maybe a little better than TNT)
> > quickest at 32-bit hi-res
> > hardware DVD decoder on chip
> > 125MHz / 0.25 micron / 32MB
> > about $170 mail order (if in-stock)

> > ====SAVAGE3D====
> > no temperature problems
> > very good 2D quality at all res
> > good 3D quality (maybe a little less than TNT)
> > faster than TNT at 32-bit 3D but slower than Rage128
> > 125MHz / 0.25 micron / 8MB (+ compression for D3D)
> > about $70 mail order

> > i will be triple-booting NT4 SP4 / Win98 / Linux.  for games, strictly
> > racing sims (and because of this i'm thinking i maybe should add a Banshee
> > in my list for Glide support but resolution limited to 800 x 600 right?)

> > any suggestions / comments??  when can we expect Rage128 price to come down?
> > when TNT2 / Voodoo3 comes out?

> > Actually the Banshee will support up to 1920x1440 res.  I'm not sure what the
> > max res is in Glide games, but it'll do 1024x768 in OpenGL.  It is limited to
> > 16.7M colours, but has support for D3D, MiniGL and Glide.  I bought the Diamond
> > Monster Fusion which has the built in fan, and it runs nice and cool.  The only
> > possible drawback is the missing second texture chip, but framerates are still
> > very playable in multi-texture games.  JMHO.

> > Zog

> jb mentioned 32bit several times in his post and appears to be a high
> priority for him.  That leaves out anything from 3DFX.

>From what I have read:

>2D - The Viper 550 is a bit faster.  Important for NROS.
>3D 16Bit - About equal
>3D 32Bit - The Rage Wins by a large margin.

>If true-color games are your thing (I can only really think of one -
>Unreal) then the Rage Fury is the one to get.

>Otherwise, I think the Viper 550 is just fine.

>-Larry

>> gonna upgrade my diamond viper v330 and plan on a TNT or Rage128 or
>> Savage3D.  i've been reading a lot of posts here and would like some
>> assistance in gathering all of this data together.  would you guys please
>> comment on what i've summarized below.

>also , if dvd is your thing.. get the rage

>>also , if dvd is your thing.. get the rage

>If DVD is your thing, don't waste time with a PC.

>>>also , if dvd is your thing.. get the rage

>>If DVD is your thing, don't waste time with a PC.

>Why do you say that?  I've been considering getting a DVD drive
>for a while now.

>>>also , if dvd is your thing.. get the rage

>>If DVD is your thing, don't waste time with a PC.

>Why do you say that?  I've been considering getting a DVD drive
>for a while now.

>>>>also , if dvd is your thing.. get the rage

>>>If DVD is your thing, don't waste time with a PC.

>>Why do you say that?  I've been considering getting a DVD drive
>>for a while now.

>Well, if you're considering getting DVD, then get it has part of a home
cinema
>setup.

>About the only thing on DVD as a media for PC's is all of the er.. MSDN
>Library, and a few other silly sized apps.

>Z.

>Please remove NOSPAM from my email address when replying.

>The most important thing about DVD is the 5.1 Digital Dolby and, in some
>cases, DTS.  I don't know _too_ many that have 6 speaker stereo systems
>in their computer room :)

>On the Laptop, even though it's only stereo, it's nice to be able to
>toss a couple of movies in the bag to kill time.

>As soon as more software titles start shipping on DVD, I'll go for it.
>If my CD-ROM drive breaks, I'll go for it then as well.

>I'm not against it at all.  I just don't need it on the Desktop yet.

>BTW... This brings up yet _another_ reason not to get into Divx.  Divx
>discs will not play on computer DVD drives, and most likely never will.

>-Larry

>> I'm going to throw my two-cents worth in here about DVD on the computer.
>> I've had a PC-DVD Encore since last spring and love it!  There are some
>> really cool games that use the DVD capabilities and you would not have
that
>> if you only got a Home Entertainment version.

>> Lewis

>Is it one of the "Pink slip in the box" type of deals?

>-Larry

>> p.s. ATI's DVD software has not shipped yet