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John Cooper interview

Andre Warrin

John Cooper interview

by Andre Warrin » Sat, 04 Sep 1999 04:00:00

There's a great John Cooper interview on the Apex:

http://gpl.gamestats.com/forum/index.cgi?read=5831

Also very interesting is this post with screenshots of GPL in the
making, there's even a weather option at the options screen :)

http://gpl.gamestats.com/forum/index.cgi?read=5803

Andre

Ok, just to make life easy for you, here are both messages:

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John Cooper interview:

A few (many ;o) weeks ago I collected questions to ask John Cooper
regarding GP racing in the 60's. Today (Friday 2/9/99) I put those
questions to him.

When reading these, please bear in mind that my heroes are nearly all
engineers and JC is near the top of that list. Consequently it was a
great thrill for me to talk to him and brain wise I may not have been
on top form ;o).

I did however get answers to the majority of the questions. The
answers are _not_ verbatim (I don't do shorthand and couldn't record
the conversation). I also combined questions where I thought it was
appropriate and expanded on a few others. I only spoke to him for 25
minutes so I tried to get as much information as I possibly could. I
apologise if I missed some people's questions out.

Here they are:

I explained what GPL was and what information we were trying to get.
He commented that Cooper weren't included in the game.

I said that they were but not under the name Cooper and asked why that
was.

He answered that he had been contaced a while ago and asked if his
name could be used. He said fine, no problem. Later though a letter
came which seemed to be asking him to sign over the Cooper name to (he
couldn't remember the name of the company but it wasn't Papyrus or
Sierra - maybe there's a holding company). He obviously wasn't willing
to do that so he said no and heard no more about it.

It looks like only Beaurocracy meant the Cooper name isn't in GPL.
What a pity.

I commented that people had amended the game to include Cooper and he
seemed pleased.

Anyway, to the main questions.

Setups:

Q: When arriving at a Grand Prix, how would you go about setting up
the cars? For example could you take us through the way you would set
up the car for a particular track, say Monza or Silverstone?

A: They would turn up at the circuit and start with the settings from
last year's race if possible. The drivers would then go out and the
mechanics would adjust the setup to their liking.

Basically, the driver's opinion was the most important thing when
setting up the car. It was definitely not a case of dropping the
driver into the car and telling them to get on with it.

The team apparently only took FOUR mechanics to the races. That was
for both cars.

Q: What static ride heights did you use? How were they determined?

A: Initially he said 2-3 inches, but on a mement's reflection he
changed his mind to 3-4. I think the new minimum of 2.5" is probably a
realistic minimum.

Q: Were changes (springs, roll bars, dampers) made on race weekends,
or was the car driven "as delivered" to the track?

A: The team would adjust anything the driver wanted. He mentioned
Springs, Dampers, Roll Bars, Ride Height and several other things I
didn't have time to write down.

Bang goes that theory ;o)

Q: How much did you test compared with today?

A: Not as much. They would test a bit at Goodwood and Silverstone but
not often.

Q: Did the set-ups differ between the drivers?

A: Yes.

The Drivers:

Q: Who in your opinion was the most interesting driver to drive a
Cooper in 1967; RINDT, RODRIGUEZ, ICKX, SIFFERT, BONNIER, LIGIER?

Mr Cooper immediatelysaid Jochen Rindt. He compared him to Schumacher,
describing him as a charger.

He said that Brabham and Mclaren (who drove for him in 59/60 when they
won the championship twice) drove with their heads. Rindt would just
go for it.

Q: Did the drivers brake with the right foot (presumably), sometimes
the left or even with both?

A: Right. He doesn't believe left foot braking really came in until
the rally minis of the sixties.

In fact, on most of the Coopers it would be impossible as the steering
shaft was in the way.

Q: Did the drivers usually/seldom/always use the clutch when changing
gear?

A: The drivers would usually use the clutch, but not always.

Q: Did the drivers talk/complain much about safety?

A: Short answer - no.

He remembered that at Spa in '59 (or Reims, he couldn't quite recall)
- three drivers were killed.

The Cars:

Q: What is the true color of the works Coopers, "Blue/Black or
Green/Black"? What was the colour of the Cooper in the F2 1967
European entry.

Dark British Racing Green.

They used the whit stripes to differentiate the Coopers from all the
other green cars on the grid.

They have always used exactly the same colour scheme for all the works
cars, even the minis (not the rally cars which were run by BMC, not
Cooper and were red).

Q: How much was the Cooper down on power in 1967 compared to the
others? Was it's weakness not handling, but power?

A: Basically, yes.

He recalled the Maserati engine produced around 350HP which was arounf
70HP less than the front of the grid.

He commented that when the Ford engine became available they would
have used it, but for the fact that Cooper were heavily involved with
BMC at the time who didn't want a Cooper/Ford on the grid.

Q: How long did the tyres last? 1 race? 3 races? 1 session?

A: 1 Race. They always used new tyres, but they lasted the whole race.

Driving Position:

Q: Are any drawings of the cars available anywhere?

A: Not any more, no.

Q: Were the pedals bottom or top hinged?

A: They were always bottom hinged.

Q: How far did the steering wheel turn each way? 1 full turn, 1.5,
etc.

A: Two turns lock to lock.

Q: Was much attention paid to pedal position for heel & toeing, etc?

A: Yes, the pedals were adjustable.

Q: How far did the wheels turn each way in degrees...or (another
way)...How tight COULD they turn in the pits, etc.?

A: He said the steering had "good lock". He couldn't remember
precisely.

Q: How long was the throttle pedal travel, etc.?

A: "Shortish". I suggested 1-2 inches and he said that 2" was about
the maximum.

Q: Was a hand clutch ever used or tried, or would it have been a
needless complication?

A: No, never.

Q: What diameter steering wheel was used? What was it's rake angle?
Was it adjustable at all?

A: The cars used 15" wheels (Similar to the Minilites).

The steering wheel varied between 13 and 15 inches, but mainly 15".

Miscellaneous

Q: How was your team financed without ads on the cars?

A: They built cars to sell (hence the plethora of Coopers in all the
classes).

At the end of the season Mclaren would take a couple of cars to
Australia, race them there then sell them at the end.

Cooper's total budget for a season back then was around 50,000 pounds
- including everything.

Q: Was the 3-litre format a difficult adjustment for teams/drivers?

A: The switch to the 1.5 litre formula was worse. Cooper were much
happier with the previous 2 litre formula when the Coventry Climax
engines were so competitive.

Q: Do you think aerodynamic grip as opposed to mechanical grip has
spoilt F1 racing?

A: Yes.

He remembered seeing Fangio at Spa drifting the car around a corner
smiling.

He described the difference between the cars then and now as the
difference between "a tiger moth and Concorde".

Q: Do you feel that the 67 season was the last of the "pure" seasons
before corporate sponsorship became so pervasive?

A: Yes.

In those days, the only advertising allowed was that connected with
the car, Castrol, Shell etc.

They mentioned that they did have a contract with Ribena. There's a
story about that but it's dealt with elsewhere better than I could.

Q: Were you aware of, or familiar with, GPL? If so, what were your
thoughts/impressions of it?

A: He hasn't seen it and asked if I would send him a copy to look at.
I said it was the least I could do for the time he had given me.

That's all folks.

Paul :o)

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The other post:

Go to http://www.sierra-online.co.uk/produits/titre.asp and scroll to
GPL in the ALL TITLES, then click on Pictures. This looks like early
snaps of GPL in development. Interesting for the rain option and
Practice options. The car shots look poxy, good job they fixed it.
What caught my attention was the Team selection, with a few different
ringins, but most interestingly was the option for Lotus & Lotus 2. I
wonder if this was for the early 67 Lotus-BRM which was used in Sth.
Africa & Monaco before Zandvoort when the Lotus Ford-Cosworth was
first run. It may have been a good leveler instead of always racing
against the Cosworth Lotus. I usually drive Brabham, just to keep the
Aussie flag flying. I would like to see a little more balance in the
speed of the teams, and not rely on the breakdown failure rate as
occured in real life, as it doesn't matter in Novice/interm. But then
again, I saw a guy do 1.27:?? in the Brab at Monza last night. I tip
my hat, seems I may need to practice some more.(if only I had another
1000rpm and 50 more HP). For a great Local Aussie site, Go to
http://racers.qgl.org/

Seeya on the Track Tony V.

don hodgdo

John Cooper interview

by don hodgdo » Sun, 05 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Andre, Thanks for posting the interview, it was fascinating, I would love to
hear what JC thinks of the actual sim after he has a chance to give it a
run.

>There's a great John Cooper interview on the Apex:

>http://gpl.gamestats.com/forum/index.cgi?read=5831


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