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by **rdrace** » Sun, 05 Sep 1999 04:00:00

some of the tracks like daytona and ppir use part of the ovals nascar
uses and then the infield as well hope this helps out a little

rdracer

> Hi

> don't know much about american bike racing
> Is the AMA bikes racing on ovals like NASCAR ?

> That would be most intertesting way to see these
> ovals used by bikes !!

> but how do you keep awake during the continuouse
> lap after lap at full throttle :=0

by * Leon » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Hi

don't know much about american bike racing
Is the AMA bikes racing on ovals like NASCAR ?

That would be most intertesting way to see these
ovals used by bikes !!

but how do you keep awake during the continuouse
lap after lap at full throttle :=0

by **Dave Henri** » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I haven't seen a complete track list, but AMA Superbikes are run
mainly on road courses. But...they also compete on infields of ovals,
kinda like the 24 hours of Daytona. At Pikes Peak they run down the
main straight, turn into an infield section. rejoin after a bunch of
turns on the back straight and use one of the banked turns for a speed
run back to the main straight. Other courses that the AMA runs on are
Brainard Minnesota, Sears Point, Heartland Park, Road America(can you
say Cicuit Le Mans in American?) Mid Ohio(fantastic Touring Car track,
blind corners, elevation changes, Laguna Seca(the Corkscrew, need I say
more?) No Oval only tracks that I'm aware of.
dave henrie

> Hi

> don't know much about american bike racing
> Is the AMA bikes racing on ovals like NASCAR ?

> That would be most intertesting way to see these
> ovals used by bikes !!

> but how do you keep awake during the continuouse
> lap after lap at full throttle :=0

by **S. Tra** » Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Ovals are dangerous for bikes because of the speeds involved and
inadequate protection from getoffs. Besides, who in the hell would
want to see an oval race over a street course (NASCAR fans excepted of
course)?

>some of the tracks like daytona and ppir use part of the ovals nascar
>uses and then the infield as well hope this helps out a little

>rdracer

>> Hi

>> don't know much about american bike racing
>> Is the AMA bikes racing on ovals like NASCAR ?

>> That would be most intertesting way to see these
>> ovals used by bikes !!

>> but how do you keep awake during the continuouse
>> lap after lap at full throttle :=0

S. Trask
1989 FZR 600 ('97 motor)
http://magma.mines.edu/students/s/strask

by **Matthew V. Jessic** » Sat, 18 Sep 1999 04:00:00

> I haven't seen a complete track list, but AMA Superbikes are run
> mainly on road courses. But...they also compete on infields of ovals,
> kinda like the 24 hours of Daytona. At Pikes Peak they run down the
> main straight, turn into an infield section. rejoin after a bunch of
> turns on the back straight and use one of the banked turns for a speed
> run back to the main straight. Other courses that the AMA runs on are
> Brainard Minnesota, Sears Point, Heartland Park, Road America(can you
> say Cicuit Le Mans in American?) Mid Ohio(fantastic Touring Car track,
> blind corners, elevation changes, Laguna Seca(the Corkscrew, need I say
> more?) No Oval only tracks that I'm aware of.
> dave henrie

The other track featured in the AMA Superbike game that
includes an oval portion is the New Hampshire International
Speedway (NHIS). They run on the oval for a bit and also do a wild
"Outside" the oval section.

An oval and infield course somewhat similar to Pike's Peak (PPIR) is
Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Unfortunately that course was dropped
from the schedule during the season this year, before the race.
(It actually was the first track model we completed, and still my
favorite oval for how it stresses the dual compound tire modeling,
so I miss it.)

Two AMA oval plus infield tracks we don't feature
(couldn't work out the licensing) are Daytona and Phoenix.

> > don't know much about american bike racing
> > Is the AMA bikes racing on ovals like NASCAR ?

> > That would be most intertesting way to see these
> > ovals used by bikes !!

You can run the PPIR and NHIS ovals if you don't mind
dodging a few bales, camera stands and cones and don't mind the
corner workers waving those black flags at you for cutting the course! ;)
Maybe we should run an online race sometime using the oval, just for fun.
(Since we will be using some of the tracks for different types of series,
we have the capability to reconfigure the extra safety bales, etc.)

I recall NASCAR vehicles doing 180 mph slowing to 140 for the turns at
LVMS (Las Vegas) recently, so I doubt the bikes would be
full throttle all the time on the oval even there (and also
disregarding tire wear... ;)

--
Matthew V. Jessick Motorsims

Vehicle Dynamics Engineer (972)910-8866 Ext.125, Fax: (972)910-8216

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