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by **MadDAW** » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 02:31:42

We already have that for the game :) As much as I love short tracks the 43
car field of NASCAr is just too many for 1/2 milers. I kinda hope that
NASCAR has more problems filling fields so that they go back to 36 cars like
it use to be. The thing I'd be most curious about the Nashville Speedway is
being 1-1/3 miles if it would keep from becoming a fuel mileage race. I'm
getting real tired of that. Also the concrete surface is a nice variable as
well.

MadDAWG

by **ymenar** » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 02:41:08

> Gateway

It was a great track for racing back on the NROS. I miss it. Shame on not
buying the rights for BGN tracks.
Don't care much about it. Prefer shorter tracks.
After converting it to NR2002, it's just not as fun.

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by **Schoone** » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 05:28:52

Not really. If they were stock car related tracks then perhaps but adding
tracks that stock cars do not run on makes little sense to me.

> > Personally no, since I don't play GPL :)

> You see my point though

> Doug

by **Steve Smit** » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:28:05

Dunno abt. you, but ovals bore me to death. I'm not that fond of NASCAR's
Flintstone technology, either, but *any* road racing is better than droning
round 'n' round in a traffic jam. Besides, stockers have done pretty well
on road courses over the years...including Riverside, Bridgehampton, Le
Mans, etc. Open another can o' Whup-Ass and call me in the morning.

> How about none of those. It's a NASCAR sim so why would we want these
> tracks :)

> > How about:

> > Elkhart Lake
> > Road Atlanta
> > Mid-Ohio
> > Lime Rock
> > Laguna Seca
> > Mosport
> > Ste. Jovite
> > Montreal
> > Sebring
> > V.I.R.
> > Monterrey
> > Los Hermanos

> > i.e., the only natural-terrain major road courses left in N. America.
> > Combined with the two tracks, Sears and the Glen, already in use, plus a
> > judicious selection of *unnatural* terrain road courses, like Cleveland
> and
> > some ovals' infields, would make a pretty nice Pan-American Road Racing
> > Championship for our fender-bending brethren.

> > > ..... at nascar.com

> > > Which track would you like to see get a Winston Cup date?

> > > Gateway

> > > Kentucky

> > > Memphis

> > > Milwaukee

> > > Nashville

> > > Nazareth

> > > Pikes Peak

> > > Could convert it to "what track do you miss driving/like to see made
for
> > > N2002" ? for here...

by **John Pancoas** » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:46:41

Sure I do. The point for me is, it's not an open-wheel, road course
series, so I don't care if there's any road courses in it.
Apples to oranges compared to the GPL examples.

And fwiw, I like running the stockers on road courses, but prefer what
their forte is, and it ain't road courses <G>

John

> > Agreed.

> > John

> So you dont want Castle Combe, Crystal Palace, Snetterton, Clermont
Ferrand,
> etc etc etc for GPL -as after all GPL was 1967 F1 cars - and they didnt
race
> on any of those

> Doug

by **John Pancoas** » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 07:47:17

Yep, add me too.

John

> My vote is for the OLD Nashville.

> -Larry

> > Assuming they're talking about the new Nashville, my vote goes to
> Memphis.

> > John

> > > ..... at nascar.com

> > > Which track would you like to see get a Winston Cup date?

> > > Gateway

> > > Kentucky

> > > Memphis

> > > Milwaukee

> > > Nashville

> > > Nazareth

> > > Pikes Peak

> > > Could convert it to "what track do you miss driving/like to see made
for
> > > N2002" ? for here...

by **Schoone** » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:10:52

Exactly. Why try to make the sim something it is not.

> Sure I do. The point for me is, it's not an open-wheel, road course
> series, so I don't care if there's any road courses in it.
> Apples to oranges compared to the GPL examples.

> And fwiw, I like running the stockers on road courses, but prefer what
> their forte is, and it ain't road courses <G>

> John

> > > Agreed.

> > > John

> > So you dont want Castle Combe, Crystal Palace, Snetterton, Clermont
> Ferrand,
> > etc etc etc for GPL -as after all GPL was 1967 F1 cars - and they didnt
> race
> > on any of those

> > Doug

by **Dave Henri** » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:29:24

> > Agreed.

> > John

> So you dont want Castle Combe, Crystal Palace, Snetterton, Clermont
Ferrand,
> etc etc etc for GPL -as after all GPL was 1967 F1 cars - and they didnt
race
> on any of those

> Doug

Well since we HAVE versions of those...for GPL, wouldn't it be nice to
have OTHER tracks that we don't have yet.???
Flat airfield club circuits or twisting undulating tracks like Mid
Ohio....The single biggest problem with sim racing...THAT track should be
updated well beyond the weak ICR2 clone we have had for years....
dave henrie

by **B.Farme** » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 10:38:36

<snip>

Spoken (written don't sound right) like a true late '60s, anti-NASCAR, Manney &
Yates (Brock, that is) lovin' snob! :o)

DGF wants more confrontation, & while for a long time I resisted speaking
(writing, sending, posting, etc) my 2 cents, I've now seen the light. <grin>

Brian
(gonna have 'nother beer)

P.S. By the way, loved yer ICR2 & GPL guides, thx.

by **jason moy** » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:29:10

Uh, because people like running on road courses?

I, and dozens of others, are looking forward to Dave Noonan's full
converter for N2002.

People forget that outside of the United States it's more common to
run 1.5 ton v-8 full bodied cars on road courses than it is on ovals.

Jason

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:10:52 -0300, "Schooner"

>Exactly. Why try to make the sim something it is not.

>> Sure I do. The point for me is, it's not an open-wheel, road course
>> series, so I don't care if there's any road courses in it.
>> Apples to oranges compared to the GPL examples.

>> And fwiw, I like running the stockers on road courses, but prefer what
>> their forte is, and it ain't road courses <G>

>> John

>> > > Agreed.

>> > > John

>> > So you dont want Castle Combe, Crystal Palace, Snetterton, Clermont
>> Ferrand,
>> > etc etc etc for GPL -as after all GPL was 1967 F1 cars - and they didnt
>> race
>> > on any of those

>> > Doug

by **jason moy** » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:31:20

On Sat, 29 Jun 2002 01:38:36 GMT, "B.Farmer"

>P.S. By the way, loved yer ICR2 & GPL guides, thx.

I send Steve at least 3 emails a day professing my adoration for his
guides, but alas, my fanaticism goes unrewarded. We need a new
non-NASCAR sim so we can get another kickass guide.

Those 2 books are the best toilet reading ever, too.

Jason

by **jason moy** » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:34:55

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 13:41:08 -0400, "ymenard"

>> Nazareth
>BEST. TRACK. EVER.

It's no Pocono, but it's definitely the second best oval in
Pennsylvania. :)

I'd like to have Vancouver and Long Beach for N2002, myself.
A Monaco conversion would rock too, or the CART Detroit circuit. Call
me ***ic, but the thought of hurtling those beasts through narrow
streets against 30 other people makes me drool.

If only we could get F1 to move to Long Beach again...

Jason

by **John Pancoas** » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 12:59:14

Yeah, but then those same people *** about what pigs the stockers are on
them <G>

John

> Uh, because people like running on road courses?

> I, and dozens of others, are looking forward to Dave Noonan's full
> converter for N2002.

> People forget that outside of the United States it's more common to
> run 1.5 ton v-8 full bodied cars on road courses than it is on ovals.

> Jason

> On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:10:52 -0300, "Schooner"

> >Exactly. Why try to make the sim something it is not.

> >> Sure I do. The point for me is, it's not an open-wheel, road course
> >> series, so I don't care if there's any road courses in it.
> >> Apples to oranges compared to the GPL examples.

> >> And fwiw, I like running the stockers on road courses, but prefer
what
> >> their forte is, and it ain't road courses <G>

> >> John

> >> > > Agreed.

> >> > > John

> >> > So you dont want Castle Combe, Crystal Palace, Snetterton, Clermont
> >> Ferrand,
> >> > etc etc etc for GPL -as after all GPL was 1967 F1 cars - and they
didnt
> >> race
> >> > on any of those

> >> > Doug

by **jason moy** » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:03:01

Don't look at me, I'll drive anything on a roadie. :)

Not very well mind you, but driving by myself ahead of all you
slowpokes on ovals gets boring after awhile, and sometimes I like
seeing a pack of cars in front of me. :)

Jason

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:59:14 -0600, "John Pancoast"

> Yeah, but then those same people *** about what pigs the stockers are on
>them <G>

>John

>> Uh, because people like running on road courses?

>> I, and dozens of others, are looking forward to Dave Noonan's full
>> converter for N2002.

>> People forget that outside of the United States it's more common to
>> run 1.5 ton v-8 full bodied cars on road courses than it is on ovals.

>> Jason

>> On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:10:52 -0300, "Schooner"

>> >Exactly. Why try to make the sim something it is not.

>> >> Sure I do. The point for me is, it's not an open-wheel, road course
>> >> series, so I don't care if there's any road courses in it.
>> >> Apples to oranges compared to the GPL examples.

>> >> And fwiw, I like running the stockers on road courses, but prefer
>what
>> >> their forte is, and it ain't road courses <G>

>> >> John

>> >> > > Agreed.

>> >> > > John

>> >> > So you dont want Castle Combe, Crystal Palace, Snetterton, Clermont
>> >> Ferrand,
>> >> > etc etc etc for GPL -as after all GPL was 1967 F1 cars - and they
>didnt
>> >> race
>> >> > on any of those

>> >> > Doug

by **John Pancoas** » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 21:19:03

Lol, now we're talkin' !

John

> Don't look at me, I'll drive anything on a roadie. :)

> Not very well mind you, but driving by myself ahead of all you
> slowpokes on ovals gets boring after awhile, and sometimes I like
> seeing a pack of cars in front of me. :)

> Jason

> On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 21:59:14 -0600, "John Pancoast"

> > Yeah, but then those same people *** about what pigs the stockers are
on
> >them <G>

> >John

> >> Uh, because people like running on road courses?

> >> I, and dozens of others, are looking forward to Dave Noonan's full
> >> converter for N2002.

> >> People forget that outside of the United States it's more common to
> >> run 1.5 ton v-8 full bodied cars on road courses than it is on ovals.

> >> Jason

> >> On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:10:52 -0300, "Schooner"

> >> >Exactly. Why try to make the sim something it is not.

> >> >> Sure I do. The point for me is, it's not an open-wheel, road
course
> >> >> series, so I don't care if there's any road courses in it.
> >> >> Apples to oranges compared to the GPL examples.

> >> >> And fwiw, I like running the stockers on road courses, but prefer
> >what
> >> >> their forte is, and it ain't road courses <G>

> >> >> John

> >> >> > > Agreed.

> >> >> > > John

> >> >> > So you dont want Castle Combe, Crystal Palace, Snetterton,
Clermont
> >> >> Ferrand,
> >> >> > etc etc etc for GPL -as after all GPL was 1967 F1 cars - and they
> >didnt
> >> >> race
> >> >> > on any of those

> >> >> > Doug

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