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>Ben...who thinks the above reads very badly but hopes the point gets
>through....

>> I concider myself quiete poficient in setting up cars in GPL, I "think" I
>know
>> what every single adjustment does ... though, I have this re-acuring
>problem.
>> This happens at Monza in particular and seems to happen with whatever car
>I
>> take out (Honda and Brabham comes to mind). Now, I have the cars setup and
>> when I go out on the 1st lap (outlap) it behaves beuitifuly through the
>1st
>> corner (the fast right hander). What I likethe car doing is come in at
>full
>> speed, dabb the breaks into the corner and then trailbreak slightly into
>the
>> corner - this pulls the car onto the apex. As soon as this happens I
>sqeeze
>> the throttle and drift slowly to the outside of the corner on the exit
>(the
>> car is either rock solid (or slighly 4-wheel drifting). This I'm happy
>with
>> this. Though, on the lap/s after (I figure once the tyres are warm) the
>car
>> feels like a "slug" though this corner. I do exactly the came thing but
>all
>> that the car wants to do is understeer. If I break hard enough, the car
>will
>> pull onto the apex though, by then I've slowed down way too much. Seems
>like I
>> need so much more lock and break in order to do what I did so
>"effortlessly"
>> on the 1st lap.

>> I know that it has something to do with the tyre pressures, though, what I
>do
>> not know is "why?" is this happening. Also, any suggestions on what to
>"tweek"
>> in order to eliminate this problem (I''m basically very happy with my
>setup)?

>> Regards,
>> David

> Regards,
> Dvaid

> >IMO you should set your car up for "warm" handling as described.  This
will
> >lead to a very loose car for the first lap or so....you will have to go
easy
> >on the throttle.  You can increase tyre pressure slightly to compensate,
> >however this compromises the warm handling which is where most racing
takes
> >place.

> >Ben...who thinks the above reads very badly but hopes the point gets
> >through....

> >> I concider myself quiete poficient in setting up cars in GPL, I "think"
I
> >know
> >> what every single adjustment does ... though, I have this re-acuring
> >problem.
> >> This happens at Monza in particular and seems to happen with whatever
car
> >I
> >> take out (Honda and Brabham comes to mind). Now, I have the cars setup
and
> >> when I go out on the 1st lap (outlap) it behaves beuitifuly through the
> >1st
> >> corner (the fast right hander). What I likethe car doing is come in at
> >full
> >> speed, dabb the breaks into the corner and then trailbreak slightly
into
> >the
> >> corner - this pulls the car onto the apex. As soon as this happens I
> >sqeeze
> >> the throttle and drift slowly to the outside of the corner on the exit
> >(the
> >> car is either rock solid (or slighly 4-wheel drifting). This I'm happy
> >with
> >> this. Though, on the lap/s after (I figure once the tyres are warm) the
> >car
> >> feels like a "slug" though this corner. I do exactly the came thing but
> >all
> >> that the car wants to do is understeer. If I break hard enough, the car
> >will
> >> pull onto the apex though, by then I've slowed down way too much. Seems
> >like I
> >> need so much more lock and break in order to do what I did so
> >"effortlessly"
> >> on the 1st lap.

> >> I know that it has something to do with the tyre pressures, though,
what I
> >do
> >> not know is "why?" is this happening. Also, any suggestions on what to
> >"tweek"
> >> in order to eliminate this problem (I''m basically very happy with my
> >setup)?

> >> Regards,
> >> David

>% to change in order to compensate for the extra heat. Any help would be
>% appreciated.

>I am no grease monkey pro, but about mid-way through your first lap,
>press ESC and a head back to the pits.  Look at your tire temps and
>pressures.  This is probably what you want them to look like after a few
>hard laps.  Therefore, start removing a pound from each tire, go back
>out and see if the "sweet" feeling doesn't begin to show up after a
>couple of laps.  Caveat:  with lower pressures on cold tires the car
>will be loose, be careful so as not to unevenly heat up the tires trying
>to handle the loose car.

>Another thing to consider.... lowering tire temps is akin to softening
>the shocks...  You might try keeping the tire pressures but take a
>click out of the shocks instead.