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My first rally car DRIVE

Alex Kihuran

My first rally car DRIVE

by Alex Kihuran » Fri, 28 Sep 2001 08:41:26

    This is a story of my first drive in a racing car. I'm 14, and I've been
one of the few rally fans in the USA since I was 6. I play lots of sims,
including GPL (-30 GPLRank btw :)) N4, and recently I started previewing
Rally Trophy. Anyway, here's a story of my first drive in a rally car that I
posted on a US Rally email list. I drove a 92 Open Class Eagle Talon TSI,
about 2500 pounds with 300hp, turbocharged, and 4wd. (very modified,
completely stripped) I have to remind you I never drove more than 100 feet
with a car in my life, and it was on my uncle's straight driveway in the
automatic family car. So here goes my tale. Oh and BTW, if you have any
questions about how it relates to sims or anything, don't hesitate to ask.
:)

    Here I am at the end of the Rapadian Rally after getting a little ride
with Rohit Panjabi in the Talon and standing around with everyone else as
the winners take beer cans and have a chaimpaigne, errr beer fight on the
wood crate podium constructed from scraps just moments ago. As the
carbonation wears down, I anxiously go up to Rob Bergstrom and ask, "Is the
drive still on?" and he says "Sure". I told him I never drove stick before,
but he didn't seem to hear me.
He decides he's going to pull out, which is good, as I don't want to stall
in front of EVERYONE. Anyway, I hop into the co-drivers seat and someone in
the
crowd yells, "Let him drive!" I had a little smirk as I went into the car as
they had no idea...
    Ah, but before we get to the story, how did I get the oppurtunity? Well
during the BBQ, I overheard Rob saying that a fif*** year old did a RallyX
somewhere and it was legal because it was on private property, so I say,
"Techincally it would be legal for me to drive." and Rob goes, "sure why
not? Summit! Can Alex drive your car?". Summit, as casual as ever says,
"Yeah sure, just wait until after the awards ceremony." The first thing that
goes through my head is, "Is everyone here insane?" and "I never drove
manual
before, let alone really a car, how am I going to do this!?!" I take a look
at the monterous open class Eagle Talon TSI, which was clearly stripped down
to the bone and had loads of power and start to feel butterflies in my
stomach, more than I've ever felt in my life.
    Now I'm in the car with Rob, we pull out, and he tells me he'll hand
over the controls once we get to the RallyX course. We arrive, and he says
he wants to take a fun run, so we strap our belts tight, put on the helmets
in the car, and take off. The extreme take off speed wasn't a suprise as I
had already taken a run with Rohit, but it was clear to me Rob knew the
course much better. We're sliding around completely on the edge, the outside
tires on the inside of the corner, running over sapplings taller than the
car, and occasionally scaring the ***out of me thinking there could be a
stump or rock lurking beneath the tall grass and shrubs. Already, the first
run is done, where I already had a big grin on my face, and Rob says, "Okay
your turn."
    We switch seats and I can't believe that I'm sitting in the DRIVER'S
seat of a fully prepped, extremely fast, rally car. I press the clutch in,
shift it to first, and rev it up twice. All I could think of was four letter
words. I don't want to stall it and look like an idiot, so I rev it up to
about 3500-4000 rpm and I let out the clutch slow. I feel it start to engage
and I quickly let off fearing I would burn up the clutch and the car takes
off, a little too fast for transiting 50 feet to the start of the rallyx
stage. Rob says go, and I take off. I shift up to second no problem (I do
have an Act Labs shifter for my racing sims and a little clutch :)). Rob
says, medium right into medium left. I turn in suddenly dabbing the brake
with my left foot expecting it to initiate some kind of slide, but it
doesn't so I understeer and go a little wide, then it screws up my rhythm
going into the medium left. Bah, Rob tells me the car is neutral under
braking so as I just drive through the first section of the course, I'm just
trying to think of how to get the thing to turn. Finally, exiting the very
long hairpin right at the tower, I have my foot down, dab the brake, the car
rotates right towards the straight, I slam the gas and have a great four
wheel drift going and take off at the exit. Ok, now right into 2nd, step on
the gas, and VROOOOM and no torque. Ah, 2nd didn't go in, press in the
clutch, push it in, take off again, then I reach 3rd for a brief second
before Rob says hairpin right, so I slow down, left foot brake in, keep the
gas on to keep the turbo spooled up, dropped the brake, slam the gas, and
the back end comes right around, points down the road, and launches me
forwards. A tiny little countersteer and Im off on my way to an off camber
square left, get through it, drift a little bit, and the run is done.
Finally feeling I know somewhat what to do, I beg Rob for another run. He
reluctantly says, "Ok, ONE more, but that's it."
    Ok, 2nd run, rev the car up, launch off the line, go to 2nd, come to
that medium left, medium right and butcher it again, but not as bad. Come to
the hairpin left, lfb in, power out, get one wheel in the grass, slide
around and launch down the next section. He calls long medium right
tightens. I remember this corner from last time too as I locked up the
brakes here not listening (still drove it through though, no reverse) so I
come into the corner, see the tires that I almost hit, dab the brakes with
my left foot, the car rotates slightly, grips, then launches down the next
short straight until having to shift to first for a hairpin left. I try a
little pendulum turn, but I realized how much harder it is to throw the
weight around in a real car unlike a video game. It helps a little, the car
turns, slam on the gas after lfb'ing in, the car rotates, and then flies
down the next straight. I shift into 2nd, the road banks left, then Rob
yells, "easy right into easy left" I drag the brake a little bit with the
gas on to slow it down a little for the turns and 4 wheel drift a little,
then he yells, while in the easy left, "off camber medium right"  so I carry
my momentum from the easy left and try to throw it into the medium right,
Rob tells me to aim for the sappling, so I do and just barely miss it with a
4 wheel drift I was happy with, then he yells, "hard left into long hairpin
right" so I hop my feet over to right foot brake and shift down to first
while going through the hard left, and then I swing into the hairpin right,
slam the gas, drift towards the outside, realize I won't make the end of the
corner so I give the brakes a little dab, it rotates more, then I just slam
the gas. The wheels grip right away and it launches me down the straight,
but before I'm even out of the corner, I have to shift into 2nd, this time,
the gear grabs, then 3rd and the revs start going pretty high and the field
feels like it's going by pretty fast, but I wouldn't dare to life. I keep my
foot down and reach an estimated 60mph, and Rob calls, "hairpin left" so I
shift down two gears, maybe to 1st a bit early, hop my feet over to lfb, and
then I do a little pendulum turn, this time a little bit bigger, and it
nicely carries into the hairpin, then I slam the gas and the car comes
roaring out sideways and I struggle to move my arms fast enough to
countersteer, but I don't have to too much and almost over correct, but keep
it on the road. Then I shift up to 3rd again for a brief moment, before
going back to first for the final, off camber square left. I try to go for
broke here and turn left, then turn as hard as I can right with a hard dab
of the brakes, and then just when I start to turn left, I slam the gas and
go through sideways and hear a little, "whoo!" from Rob, power down the
straight, then slow down because I know it's over.
    I stop the car and catch my breath. I know realize I'm drenched in sweat
with a huge grin on my face. I asked Rob, "How was it?" and he said, "Well
you did better than a lot of people I rode with and you have massive
potential, keep with it." (got about the same quote in a personal email a
day later, heh)
    Now, after pushing the car to it's limits, I easily and casually drove
back to the awards ceromeny on the other part of the farm, and pull in like
I've driven 1000 times before. Driving on the way back, I was a little upset
that I couldn't get a good big pendulum turn in and that I butchered a lot
of corners my first run, and then I thought, "My god, I never drove manual,
let alone really a car!" and I say it out loud accidently, and Rob goes,
"Really? Well you didn't seem to have a problem with it" So I drive back to
service pull in, get out, with the biggest smile on my face and Rob says,
"Well you might as well quit now as all your rally careers are over."
    Well, Rob's words to everyone when I got out of the car might have been
*slightly* exaggerated, ;) but I can only wonder what it will be like WHEN I
drive next time. :)

Thanks,
Alex

TRUSRS

My first rally car DRIVE

by TRUSRS » Fri, 28 Sep 2001 08:52:02

so do you *** like all good little 14 year olds do?
Sam Tras

My first rally car DRIVE

by Sam Tras » Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:06:52

Jealous retard...


Sam Tras

My first rally car DRIVE

by Sam Tras » Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:08:54

Wow that's awesome!  Sounds like you did very well!  So are you going to
stick w/ it?  I bet you could start off in some type of 2wd class for pretty
cheap.  Good luck!

Sam
2001 GSXR 750

"Alex Kihurani" <aga...@yahoo.nospamie.com> wrote in message

news:GIts7.365$bY4.34534@typhoon2.gnilink.net...
>     This is a story of my first drive in a racing car. I'm 14, and I've
been
> one of the few rally fans in the USA since I was 6. I play lots of sims,
> including GPL (-30 GPLRank btw :)) N4, and recently I started previewing
> Rally Trophy. Anyway, here's a story of my first drive in a rally car that
I
> posted on a US Rally email list. I drove a 92 Open Class Eagle Talon TSI,
> about 2500 pounds with 300hp, turbocharged, and 4wd. (very modified,
> completely stripped) I have to remind you I never drove more than 100 feet
> with a car in my life, and it was on my uncle's straight driveway in the
> automatic family car. So here goes my tale. Oh and BTW, if you have any
> questions about how it relates to sims or anything, don't hesitate to ask.
> :)

>     Here I am at the end of the Rapadian Rally after getting a little ride
> with Rohit Panjabi in the Talon and standing around with everyone else as
> the winners take beer cans and have a chaimpaigne, errr beer fight on the
> wood crate podium constructed from scraps just moments ago. As the
> carbonation wears down, I anxiously go up to Rob Bergstrom and ask, "Is
the
> drive still on?" and he says "Sure". I told him I never drove stick
before,
> but he didn't seem to hear me.
> He decides he's going to pull out, which is good, as I don't want to stall
> in front of EVERYONE. Anyway, I hop into the co-drivers seat and someone
in
> the
> crowd yells, "Let him drive!" I had a little smirk as I went into the car
as
> they had no idea...
>     Ah, but before we get to the story, how did I get the oppurtunity?
Well
> during the BBQ, I overheard Rob saying that a fifteen year old did a
RallyX
> somewhere and it was legal because it was on private property, so I say,
> "Techincally it would be legal for me to drive." and Rob goes, "sure why
> not? Summit! Can Alex drive your car?". Summit, as casual as ever says,
> "Yeah sure, just wait until after the awards ceremony." The first thing
that
> goes through my head is, "Is everyone here insane?" and "I never drove
> manual
> before, let alone really a car, how am I going to do this!?!" I take a
look
> at the monterous open class Eagle Talon TSI, which was clearly stripped
down
> to the bone and had loads of power and start to feel butterflies in my
> stomach, more than I've ever felt in my life.
>     Now I'm in the car with Rob, we pull out, and he tells me he'll hand
> over the controls once we get to the RallyX course. We arrive, and he says
> he wants to take a fun run, so we strap our belts tight, put on the
helmets
> in the car, and take off. The extreme take off speed wasn't a suprise as I
> had already taken a run with Rohit, but it was clear to me Rob knew the
> course much better. We're sliding around completely on the edge, the
outside
> tires on the inside of the corner, running over sapplings taller than the
> car, and occasionally scaring the crap out of me thinking there could be a
> stump or rock lurking beneath the tall grass and shrubs. Already, the
first
> run is done, where I already had a big grin on my face, and Rob says,
"Okay
> your turn."
>     We switch seats and I can't believe that I'm sitting in the DRIVER'S
> seat of a fully prepped, extremely fast, rally car. I press the clutch in,
> shift it to first, and rev it up twice. All I could think of was four
letter
> words. I don't want to stall it and look like an idiot, so I rev it up to
> about 3500-4000 rpm and I let out the clutch slow. I feel it start to
engage
> and I quickly let off fearing I would burn up the clutch and the car takes
> off, a little too fast for transiting 50 feet to the start of the rallyx
> stage. Rob says go, and I take off. I shift up to second no problem (I do
> have an Act Labs shifter for my racing sims and a little clutch :)). Rob
> says, medium right into medium left. I turn in suddenly dabbing the brake
> with my left foot expecting it to initiate some kind of slide, but it
> doesn't so I understeer and go a little wide, then it screws up my rhythm
> going into the medium left. Bah, Rob tells me the car is neutral under
> braking so as I just drive through the first section of the course, I'm
just
> trying to think of how to get the thing to turn. Finally, exiting the very
> long hairpin right at the tower, I have my foot down, dab the brake, the
car
> rotates right towards the straight, I slam the gas and have a great four
> wheel drift going and take off at the exit. Ok, now right into 2nd, step
on
> the gas, and VROOOOM and no torque. Ah, 2nd didn't go in, press in the
> clutch, push it in, take off again, then I reach 3rd for a brief second
> before Rob says hairpin right, so I slow down, left foot brake in, keep
the
> gas on to keep the turbo spooled up, dropped the brake, slam the gas, and
> the back end comes right around, points down the road, and launches me
> forwards. A tiny little countersteer and Im off on my way to an off camber
> square left, get through it, drift a little bit, and the run is done.
> Finally feeling I know somewhat what to do, I beg Rob for another run. He
> reluctantly says, "Ok, ONE more, but that's it."
>     Ok, 2nd run, rev the car up, launch off the line, go to 2nd, come to
> that medium left, medium right and butcher it again, but not as bad. Come
to
> the hairpin left, lfb in, power out, get one wheel in the grass, slide
> around and launch down the next section. He calls long medium right
> tightens. I remember this corner from last time too as I locked up the
> brakes here not listening (still drove it through though, no reverse) so I
> come into the corner, see the tires that I almost hit, dab the brakes with
> my left foot, the car rotates slightly, grips, then launches down the next
> short straight until having to shift to first for a hairpin left. I try a
> little pendulum turn, but I realized how much harder it is to throw the
> weight around in a real car unlike a video game. It helps a little, the
car
> turns, slam on the gas after lfb'ing in, the car rotates, and then flies
> down the next straight. I shift into 2nd, the road banks left, then Rob
> yells, "easy right into easy left" I drag the brake a little bit with the
> gas on to slow it down a little for the turns and 4 wheel drift a little,
> then he yells, while in the easy left, "off camber medium right"  so I
carry
> my momentum from the easy left and try to throw it into the medium right,
> Rob tells me to aim for the sappling, so I do and just barely miss it with
a
> 4 wheel drift I was happy with, then he yells, "hard left into long
hairpin
> right" so I hop my feet over to right foot brake and shift down to first
> while going through the hard left, and then I swing into the hairpin
right,
> slam the gas, drift towards the outside, realize I won't make the end of
the
> corner so I give the brakes a little dab, it rotates more, then I just
slam
> the gas. The wheels grip right away and it launches me down the straight,
> but before I'm even out of the corner, I have to shift into 2nd, this
time,
> the gear grabs, then 3rd and the revs start going pretty high and the
field
> feels like it's going by pretty fast, but I wouldn't dare to life. I keep
my
> foot down and reach an estimated 60mph, and Rob calls, "hairpin left" so I
> shift down two gears, maybe to 1st a bit early, hop my feet over to lfb,
and
> then I do a little pendulum turn, this time a little bit bigger, and it
> nicely carries into the hairpin, then I slam the gas and the car comes
> roaring out sideways and I struggle to move my arms fast enough to
> countersteer, but I don't have to too much and almost over correct, but
keep
> it on the road. Then I shift up to 3rd again for a brief moment, before
> going back to first for the final, off camber square left. I try to go for
> broke here and turn left, then turn as hard as I can right with a hard dab
> of the brakes, and then just when I start to turn left, I slam the gas and
> go through sideways and hear a little, "whoo!" from Rob, power down the
> straight, then slow down because I know it's over.
>     I stop the car and catch my breath. I know realize I'm drenched in
sweat
> with a huge grin on my face. I asked Rob, "How was it?" and he said, "Well
> you did better than a lot of people I rode with and you have massive
> potential, keep with it." (got about the same quote in a personal email a
> day later, heh)
>     Now, after pushing the car to it's limits, I easily and casually drove
> back to the awards ceromeny on the other part of the farm, and pull in
like
> I've driven 1000 times before. Driving on the way back, I was a little
upset
> that I couldn't get a good big pendulum turn in and that I butchered a lot
> of corners my first run, and then I thought, "My god, I never drove
manual,
> let alone really a car!" and I say it out loud accidently, and Rob goes,
> "Really? Well you didn't seem to have a problem with it" So I drive back
to
> service pull in, get out, with the biggest smile on my face and Rob says,
> "Well you might as well quit now as all your rally careers are over."
>     Well, Rob's words to everyone when I got out of the car might have
been
> *slightly* exaggerated, ;) but I can only wonder what it will be like WHEN
I
> drive next time. :)

> Thanks,
> Alex

TRUSRS

My first rally car DRIVE

by TRUSRS » Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:29:25

Damn right I am!!  :)

Dale Gree

My first rally car DRIVE

by Dale Gree » Fri, 28 Sep 2001 11:02:38


: Anyway, here's a story of my first drive in a rally car that I
: posted on a US Rally email list. I drove a 92 Open Class Eagle Talon TSI,
: about 2500 pounds with 300hp, turbocharged, and 4wd. (very modified,
: completely stripped)

I hope all your hair falls out by the time you're 20 :-)

I had a '91 Talon (non-turbo, 135hp, 3200-3500 lb or so)... I know those
cars handle very well but I just didn't have the power that I needed to
exploit it...

<homer> Mmmmm, 300 horsepowerrrrr... </homer>

Dale.

Rafe McAulif

My first rally car DRIVE

by Rafe McAulif » Fri, 28 Sep 2001 17:51:27

Sounds like you had a ball Alex, are you going for a pro career now or
what?

Rafe Mc

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:41:26 GMT, "Alex Kihurani"


>    This is a story of my first drive in a racing car. I'm 14, and I've been

Alex Kihuran

My first rally car DRIVE

by Alex Kihuran » Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:09:26

Well I've started to save a lot of money with part-time jobs for the last 2
years to save up for a rally car. Have about $1400 in right now, need to get
a new job :) I hope to get a cheap old Golf for $1000, get a rollcage built
for $1200, and then use the rest of the money for other equipment that needs
to be put in, entry fees, and some money to add a little more power.
Hopefully it will work out :)

Thanks,
Alex

> Sounds like you had a ball Alex, are you going for a pro career now or
> what?

> Rafe Mc

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:41:26 GMT, "Alex Kihurani"

> >    This is a story of my first drive in a racing car. I'm 14, and I've
been

Alex Kihuran

My first rally car DRIVE

by Alex Kihuran » Sat, 29 Sep 2001 04:15:02

Well I've started to save a lot of money with part-time jobs for the last 2
years to save up for a rally car. Have about $1400 in right now, need to get
a new job :) I hope to get a cheap old Golf for $1000, get a rollcage built
for $1200, and then use the rest of the money for other equipment that needs
to be put in, entry fees, and some money to add a little more power.
Hopefully it will work out :)

Thanks,
Alex

> Sounds like you had a ball Alex, are you going for a pro career now or
> what?

> Rafe Mc

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:41:26 GMT, "Alex Kihurani"

> >    This is a story of my first drive in a racing car. I'm 14, and I've
been

Rafe McAulif

My first rally car DRIVE

by Rafe McAulif » Sat, 29 Sep 2001 13:23:29

Well, that's certainly doing your racing on a shoestring :)

At least your expenses are pretty low when you're young, so most $
earnt goes into savings. Good luck :)

Rafe Mc

On Thu, 27 Sep 2001 11:09:26 GMT, "Alex Kihurani"


>Well I've started to save a lot of money with part-time jobs for the last 2
>years to save up for a rally car. Have about $1400 in right now, need to get
>a new job :) I hope to get a cheap old Golf for $1000, get a rollcage built
>for $1200, and then use the rest of the money for other equipment that needs
>to be put in, entry fees, and some money to add a little more power.
>Hopefully it will work out :)

>Thanks,
>Alex


>> Sounds like you had a ball Alex, are you going for a pro career now or
>> what?

>> Rafe Mc

>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:41:26 GMT, "Alex Kihurani"

>> >    This is a story of my first drive in a racing car. I'm 14, and I've
>been

imaswinge

My first rally car DRIVE

by imaswinge » Sun, 30 Sep 2001 14:54:08

last year my friend did some ice racing on frozen lakes up here in 'ol
Canada.  Car will run you around $1000 ($500 for the chevette (RWD and
ceap), and $500ish for roll-bar and extinguisher and what-not - prices in
CDN).  Tires were supplied from sponsors I think, and didn't cost much to
race.  I just may go halvesies on a car for this winter.  :-)

oh, can you say 'oversteer' bonanza?  I knew you could!

curtis


> Well, that's certainly doing your racing on a shoestring :)

> At least your expenses are pretty low when you're young, so most $
> earnt goes into savings. Good luck :)

> Rafe Mc

> On Thu, 27 Sep 2001 11:09:26 GMT, "Alex Kihurani"

> >Well I've started to save a lot of money with part-time jobs for the last
2
> >years to save up for a rally car. Have about $1400 in right now, need to
get
> >a new job :) I hope to get a cheap old Golf for $1000, get a rollcage
built
> >for $1200, and then use the rest of the money for other equipment that
needs
> >to be put in, entry fees, and some money to add a little more power.
> >Hopefully it will work out :)

> >Thanks,
> >Alex


> >> Sounds like you had a ball Alex, are you going for a pro career now or
> >> what?

> >> Rafe Mc

> >> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:41:26 GMT, "Alex Kihurani"

> >> >    This is a story of my first drive in a racing car. I'm 14, and
I've
> >been

Dave Henri

My first rally car DRIVE

by Dave Henri » Mon, 01 Oct 2001 01:48:05

  Speedvison showed a 24hour Ice race on a lake for motorcycles and ATV's.
Man that musta been coldcoldcold.  Sounds like fun tho..
Hope you enjoy your racing.
dave henrie


Jan Verschuere

My first rally car DRIVE

by Jan Verschuere » Mon, 01 Oct 2001 01:55:21

So sideways one's actually going forward, eh? <g>

Jan.
=---
"Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn.

imaswinge

My first rally car DRIVE

by imaswinge » Mon, 01 Oct 2001 02:26:59

no need for wipers, just roll down the windows for a clear view!!

curtis


Jan Verschuere

My first rally car DRIVE

by Jan Verschuere » Mon, 01 Oct 2001 02:42:40

Like the man said... stick with it Alex. Congrats. Proof once again quick is
either there or it isn't.

Swapping between left and right foot braking on a first drive in a 300hp
car? -Jeez, I've actually done some races in a form of RallyX over here and
I never even thought about doing *that*. Guess I know why I'm simming now
instead of holding down a works WRC drive. <g>

Jan.
=---
"Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn.


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