rec.autos.simulators

by **madd..** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

The trouble is, someone comes to market with a product that gets close
to delivering and we are almost forced to buy it because there are so
few offerings even worthy of a glance. If you ask me, the sim-racing
genre is in danger of becoming everything it shouldn't be...compromised.

> On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 08:17:21 -0500 rrevved

> % >
> % >What is the point in supporting underachieving software production
> % >teams? I did not buy NASCAR99, NASCAR3, NASCAR Legends or any of
the
> % >assorted upgrades because they DID NOT DELIVER THE GOODS.

> % Yep, same thing happened with combat flight-sims.
> % Now, there aren't any more.

> It's called survival of the fittest. Whomever delivers the goods gets
> the gold. Don't deliver, you get squat.... You don't get paid, you
> lose your job....

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> Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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by **N..** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Don't you think AI car sounds are a defacto standard by now? It's not
some freakish wish, it should just be in the game. No excuses
accepted.
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Nos

by **Shellfe** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

#>What is the point in supporting underachieving software production
#>teams? I did not buy NASCAR99, NASCAR3, NASCAR Legends or any of the
#>assorted upgrades because they DID NOT DELIVER THE GOODS.
#
#Yep, same thing happened with combat flight-sims.
#Now, there aren't any more.

Talking about that, you know of any good WWII combat flight sims, new or old?
I've tried stuff like MS Flight Simulator, but it's too REAL for me i guess. Too
many stuff to look out for. I want a game where I just need to go up and take
some planes down. Just in case, I have X-Wing Alliance already - thanks. I
bought the MS FF joystick just for the game!

So any good WWII games? or WWI, heck. Thanks! :)

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Shellfer

by **N..** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:28:26 +0100, Mike Blackmore

Grrrr! :-)

You're probably right, but I have discussed racing sims in the
flight-sim group in the past and was actually discussing wheels there
today so hopefully no one will mind.
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Nos

by **N..** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

spoke:

Rowan. Same people who did Mig Alley. Should be very good.
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Nos

by **N..** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

spoke:

He's being sarcastic.
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Nos

by **N..** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 10:08:52 +0800, Shellfer

The one for you would be Jane's WWII Fighters. Incredible grphics too.
You can get it in a game bundle right now for cheep too. It has WWII
Fighters, Jane's F15E (great F15 sim, but runs best with a Voodoo
card) and Novalogic's Commanche (shovelware). It's generally agreed
that Microprose's European Air War is the best of the WWII sims
though.
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Nos

by **SKur** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

even get Redbaron2 if u can find it, 64 player multiplayer arenas (free) and a blast
online,

SKurj

> #>What is the point in supporting underachieving software production
> #>teams? I did not buy NASCAR99, NASCAR3, NASCAR Legends or any of the
> #>assorted upgrades because they DID NOT DELIVER THE GOODS.
> #
> #Yep, same thing happened with combat flight-sims.
> #Now, there aren't any more.

> Talking about that, you know of any good WWII combat flight sims, new or old?
> I've tried stuff like MS Flight Simulator, but it's too REAL for me i guess. Too
> many stuff to look out for. I want a game where I just need to go up and take
> some planes down. Just in case, I have X-Wing Alliance already - thanks. I
> bought the MS FF joystick just for the game!

> So any good WWII games? or WWI, heck. Thanks! :)

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> Shellfer

by **Shellfe** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

#Buy Jane's World War II Fighters and Microprose's European Air War.
#They are precisely what you need. You will love them both!

Ok, thanks a lot guys!

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Shellfer

by **Shellfe** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Ah, should have come here long ago instead of looking for reviews on sites like
Gamespot which hasn't got anything.

#Buy Jane's World War II Fighters and Microprose's European Air War.
#They are precisely what you need. You will love them both!

by **Shellfe** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

#even get Redbaron2 if u can find it, 64 player multiplayer arenas (free) and a
blast
#online,

N.A, 90% of the people here only has 56K (max) access to the net. :p

Some rich ones can afford the lam0 isdn connection. xDSL, Cable is practically
unheard of here. Sad.

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Shellfer.

by **Jo Hels** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I'd like you to expand on this one. Arguments, maybe?

JoH

by **Mike Blackmor** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Kai who says it works to a programmed pattern ?

Harjan said this :

'It's preprogrammed however, if you load a game the next session will
be the same weather as before.'

Then you jumped to this :

'so it really isn't "dynamic" at all then? How many different weather
loops do they have for each track? Seems that you could realize which
weather pattern your in and plan accordingly, which could severely
hamper this feature.'

Iv'e found this :

Someone on this news group says something and it becomes true ?
Before you race you are given a forecast showing percentage chance and
severity of rain at half hourly intervals, this forecast may or may
not be 100% accurate. Having put a lot of laps in at Spa (Seemingly
the track with the highest prob of rain) I can see absolutely no
pattern at all. I believe the weather is set by algorithm before the
start of the race and not looked up from a table of weather patterns.

Regards Mike

On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:25:10 +0100, Mike Blackmore

>The dynamic weather is a step forward from anything else avalaible in
>the genre.

>Regards Mike

>>I don't mean to sound offensive or self-righteous, but I think many of
>>my sim-racing brethren are a bit odd.

>>Let me start off by saying that the last sim I bought was GPL. I am a
>>GPL fanatic, in fact I handle the GPL page at a very popular web site,
>>that does not mean I refuse to recognize anything besides GPL as a
>>racing sim. What it DOES mean, is that I will no longer accept
>>anything less than GPL in overall proficiency for my hard earned
>>monetary units.

>>Reading the rather optimistic posts regarding GP3, mixed in amongst the
>>numberous ranting condemnations of the game, I'm surprised to see so
>>many people willing to pay for anything but the next step forward.
>>What is the point in supporting underachieving software production
>>teams? I did not buy NASCAR99, NASCAR3, NASCAR Legends or any of the
>>assorted upgrades because they DID NOT DELIVER THE GOODS. When a
>>company makes a leap forward and they or their competitors subsequently
>>fail to at LEAST reach that plateau again, they do not DESERVE to be
>>rewarded with your money. Does this not make sense? Rewarding
>>mediocrity does not encourage innovation. We should be looking ahead,
>>not to the side.

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>>Before you buy.

by **Mike Blackmor** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I've got them both.

They are both classics. I know it's sounds silly but by both of them
each has outstanding features

EAW 100% Immersion : you are there !!!! the battles can have up to 256
planes in the sky, it has to be seen to be believed and lots of third
party stuff.

WW2 Fighters Eye Candy (Like wow), Fantastic dogfighting AI and the
best loading and interface music in any sim.

Regards Mike

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:15:17 +0800, Shellfer

>Ah, should have come here long ago instead of looking for reviews on sites like
>Gamespot which hasn't got anything.

>#Buy Jane's World War II Fighters and Microprose's European Air War.
>#They are precisely what you need. You will love them both!

by **SKur** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

HUH, the majority of people in the world are on dial up...

and it works for most, redbaron2 is the best ww1 sim of all time IMO

Martyn_D

> #even get Redbaron2 if u can find it, 64 player multiplayer arenas (free) and a
> blast
> #online,

> N.A, 90% of the people here only has 56K (max) access to the net. :p

> Some rich ones can afford the lam0 isdn connection. xDSL, Cable is practically
> unheard of here. Sad.

> ---
> Shellfer.

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