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I like NetKar best... I mean LFS... er GPL... no, er GTR002... N2003...

Ruud Dingeman

I like NetKar best... I mean LFS... er GPL... no, er GTR002... N2003...

by Ruud Dingeman » Sat, 26 Jul 2003 14:19:44


> The trouble with that is that those '67 cars were pretty exciting
> rides... far too much power, far too little grip. Anything else is going
> to feel tame in comparison unless it's very well done indeed.

So what you're saying is you'd need something like a Top Fuel Dragracing
on Ice simulation?       ;)

Regards, Rudy

Ruud Dingeman

I like NetKar best... I mean LFS... er GPL... no, er GTR002... N2003...

by Ruud Dingeman » Sat, 26 Jul 2003 14:26:56


> So true!  Sometimes I think, 'Screw it, I'll just go back and play GPL'
> Then I fire it up and the 36fps frame rate destroys the sense of reality
> after playing GTR2002 at a liquid smooth 70fps+  Then the slipping and
> sliding of the cars tyres (which feels like nothing I've ever driven in real
> life) puts me off and I end up going back in search of some other sim....

Dude, you're spoiled (both in the grip and in the fps departments)   ;)

I can't even get the *** up to 30 fps at the starts on my old PII-450...

(Anybody got an old voodoo5 to donate?   ;)

Regards, Rudy
(GPLRank -1.6)

Andrew MacPhers

I like NetKar best... I mean LFS... er GPL... no, er GTR002... N2003...

by Andrew MacPhers » Sat, 26 Jul 2003 16:50:00



> So what you're saying is you'd need something like a Top Fuel
> Dragracing on Ice simulation?       ;)

Ok, who leaked Geoff Crammond's next project? :-)

Andrew McP

Andre Warring

I like NetKar best... I mean LFS... er GPL... no, er GTR002... N2003...

by Andre Warring » Sat, 26 Jul 2003 17:35:04


>> In life in general I've always seen too much
>> choice as a bad thing.

>So true!  Sometimes I think, 'Screw it, I'll just go back and play GPL'
>Then I fire it up and the 36fps frame rate destroys the sense of reality
>after playing GTR2002 at a liquid smooth 70fps+  Then the slipping and
>sliding of the cars tyres (which feels like nothing I've ever driven in real
>life) puts me off and I end up going back in search of some other sim....

I'm surprised at your fps comments.. 36fps in GPL feels supersmooth to
me, while 36fps in F1C for example give me a stuttering impression..
In F1C I really need above 50 fps to make it feel smooth :-/

And realistic or not, the more sims I play, the more I discover it's
the sliping and sliding which I like so much in GPL.. perhaps GPL2
with more realistic tire physics would have been a huge disappointment
for me ;)

Andre

Ped Xin

I like NetKar best... I mean LFS... er GPL... no, er GTR002... N2003...

by Ped Xin » Sun, 27 Jul 2003 08:31:19



This is interesting.  GPL at 36 fps does feel smoother to me than LFS at
50-60...  But then F1C feels smoother than both of them, clipping along
at 70+ :-)

He says GPL feels like nothing he's ever driven.  Well I bet he's never
driven a 1967 Formula One car. ;-)

Andrew MacPhers

I like NetKar best... I mean LFS... er GPL... no, er GTR002... N2003...

by Andrew MacPhers » Sun, 27 Jul 2003 16:06:00



> He says GPL feels like nothing he's ever driven.  Well
> I bet he's never driven a 1967 Formula One car. ;-)

Dangerous argument to use if you ask me :-) Not sure any of us have had
that pleasure!

Not sure it'd be a pleasure in RL actually. I can see the epitaph now...

"He dreamed of driving,
Old F-1 Lotuses,
He got his wish,
Now he's pushing up crocuses."

Andrew McP

John Wallac

I like NetKar best... I mean LFS... er GPL... no, er GTR002... N2003...

by John Wallac » Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:19:33

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 02:15 +0100 (BST),


>most promise for me. (Ok, it's also great displacement activity from
>what I *should* be doing!)

Should I bite? What *should* you be doing....? :-)

John

Andrew MacPhers

I like NetKar best... I mean LFS... er GPL... no, er GTR002... N2003...

by Andrew MacPhers » Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:14:00



> Should I bite? What *should* you be doing....? :-)

With 40 disappearing in my rear view mirror, and after two years working
nearly every day, I've almost paid off my mortgage (one bedroom flat on
the dodgy side of the tracks, not *quite* a palace :-). So I can now
pretty much knock the overtime on the head for good and get back to
failing to be an artist, writer & sim racer. I'm also looking forward to
a fully blown mid-life crisis at any point... though statistically it's
a bit late for a mid-life crisis ;-)

http://www.cix.co.uk/~andrew_mcp may give you an idea why it's easy to
get displaced :-)

Andrew McP

Ruud Dingeman

I like NetKar best... I mean LFS... er GPL... no, er GTR002... N2003...

by Ruud Dingeman » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:02:38


> Not sure it'd be a pleasure in RL actually. I can see the epitaph now...

> "He dreamed of driving,
> Old F-1 Lotuses,
> He got his wish,
> Now he's pushing up crocuses."

;)

Well yeah, maybe not if you only know two positions for the gas pedal
("OFF" and "FULL")!

(Surely, if there evah was a sim that teaches you otherwise the HARD
way, it must be GPL)

Regards, Rudy


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