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DSL, N3: Should I suspect N3?

Greg Cisk

DSL, N3: Should I suspect N3?

by Greg Cisk » Wed, 17 May 2000 04:00:00


Wow... That is funky. My DSL modem is sitting on top of my
PC (under my desk). What speed is your DSL connection?

It sounds like the above fixed the problem. I would not
be happy out that... Also I believe the source of your
problem is that your phone line and DSL is using
the same copper pair of wires. Supposedly DSL
operates at a much higher bandwidth and can co-
exist with normal phone operations. In my area
(chicago) Ameritech insists on running another
line for the DSL. I suspect that in your case the phone
and DSL is colliding somehow causing those random
dropouts.

I always have 25 total cars and 8 human multiplayer slots
available. I would suspect that you could do the same.
Many people cannot drive worth a darn and have no
patience for all of the other computer cars. I always
get poor losers dropping out when they crash. I think
it is a great time to have to drive in all that traffic.

--


Doug Appleyar

DSL, N3: Should I suspect N3?

by Doug Appleyar » Wed, 17 May 2000 04:00:00





> > Thanks for your advice.  I did spend some time with
> > BellSouth on the phone last night.  They wanted to
> > make sure I unplugged my 900 MHz cordless phone (unplugged
> > the POWER and the telephone cord).  Okay, I did that, no
> > help.  Their other suggestion was to move the DSL modem
> > away from the computer. It was sitting right next to the
> > monitor, and a USB hub (powered) was sitting on top of it.
> > So I moved the modem to a high shelf (very glad I chose an
> > external modem).

> Wow... That is funky. My DSL modem is sitting on top of my
> PC (under my desk). What speed is your DSL connection?

It's ADSL - 1.2 Mbps down, 150-250K up, but it disconnects
frequently (perhaps now that is fixed, we'll see).

This is one of BellSouth's main selling points for the
service, that you can use it on your existing phone line,
and not need an extra phone line for your Internet service.
Looks like BellSouth and Ameritech have taken different
tacks :-)

See http://consumer.bellsouth.net/adsl/what_dsl.html

Thanks again

--
Doug Appleyard

"Got us a Dirt Track Date, demolition derby figure 8"
   -- Southern Culture On The Skids

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Greg Cisk

DSL, N3: Should I suspect N3?

by Greg Cisk » Wed, 17 May 2000 04:00:00


Wow that is a HUGE difference. My DSL is 320K both ways,
I believe they call it SDSL.

I wonder if while racing online, your connection for the
race will be dropped to an effective 150-250K if you
know what I mean. You may only get the 1.2MB for
downloading while online *** may drop to the
lowest common denominator.

Yep. I guess time will tell how it works, but my instincts
tell me that a seperate line for just DSL can't be a bad
thing :-)

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David R. Ericso

DSL, N3: Should I suspect N3?

by David R. Ericso » Thu, 18 May 2000 04:00:00

Greg,

You are correct.  If you have the same upload/download rate then it's
SDSL (Synchronous DSL).  Doug has ADSL (Asynchronous DSL), hence his download
rate is faster than his upload rate.

I'm a very lucky man in that I have 768K SDSL!  Unfortunately, my ISP masks
my IP address.  I haven't come up with a way to provide a valid IP address
to others for direct TCP/IP hosting.  I can host via WON quite successfully
though.

Dave Ericson
"MomoBoy"
JDB Racing




> > It's ADSL - 1.2 Mbps down, 150-250K up, but it disconnects
> > frequently (perhaps now that is fixed, we'll see).

> Wow that is a HUGE difference. My DSL is 320K both ways,
> I believe they call it SDSL.

> I wonder if while racing online, your connection for the
> race will be dropped to an effective 150-250K if you
> know what I mean. You may only get the 1.2MB for
> downloading while online *** may drop to the
> lowest common denominator.

> > This is one of BellSouth's main selling points for the
> > service, that you can use it on your existing phone line,
> > and not need an extra phone line for your Internet service.
> > Looks like BellSouth and Ameritech have taken different
> > tacks :-)

> Yep. I guess time will tell how it works, but my instincts
> tell me that a seperate line for just DSL can't be a bad
> thing :-)

> --



richard smit

DSL, N3: Should I suspect N3?

by richard smit » Thu, 18 May 2000 04:00:00

i just cancelled my dsl order in favor of a cable modem.



> > Thanks for your advice.  I did spend some time with
> > BellSouth on the phone last night.  They wanted to
> > make sure I unplugged my 900 MHz cordless phone (unplugged
> > the POWER and the telephone cord).  Okay, I did that, no
> > help.  Their other suggestion was to move the DSL modem
> > away from the computer. It was sitting right next to the
> > monitor, and a USB hub (powered) was sitting on top of it.
> > So I moved the modem to a high shelf (very glad I chose an
> > external modem).

> Wow... That is funky. My DSL modem is sitting on top of my
> PC (under my desk). What speed is your DSL connection?

> > By this time it was 12:00.  I tried one race (not identified
> > as a DSL host), and it worked, no disconnects.  Also my

> It sounds like the above fixed the problem. I would not
> be happy out that... Also I believe the source of your
> problem is that your phone line and DSL is using
> the same copper pair of wires. Supposedly DSL
> operates at a much higher bandwidth and can co-
> exist with normal phone operations. In my area
> (chicago) Ameritech insists on running another
> line for the DSL. I suspect that in your case the phone
> and DSL is colliding somehow causing those random
> dropouts.

> > BTW I have a P3 550, with 128 M RAM.  How big a race do you
> > think I could host?  When you host 2 races do you set one up
> > as a server, then actively host and race in the other one?

> I always have 25 total cars and 8 human multiplayer slots
> available. I would suspect that you could do the same.
> Many people cannot drive worth a darn and have no
> patience for all of the other computer cars. I always
> get poor losers dropping out when they crash. I think
> it is a great time to have to drive in all that traffic.

> --



Doug Appleyar

DSL, N3: Should I suspect N3?

by Doug Appleyar » Wed, 24 May 2000 04:00:00



As of now I consider this problem solved.
It was in fact pilot error.  What solved it
for me was moving the DSL modem (Alcatel
SpeedStream 4060 USB) from its location next
to the monitor, and under a powered USB hub,
to a shelf two feet above the monitor and the hub.

I now get perfect connections and warp free
racing.  (I was warping one time with 0.10
latency and 94% quality but that may have
been the Internet.)  Usually I have 0.06
latency or lower, and 100% quality or higher.

Thanks to all who offered suggestions.

Here's some stuff I tried which had no effect
on my getting dropped every time the host went
to Qualify (and also random dropped conns when
PC was idle):

- Plug modem's phone cord into different jack
- Plug modem's phone cord into external house drop
- Kill all processes except Systray and Explorer
  using Ctrl-Alt-Del
- Try at off-peak hours
- Turn off screen saver and power saver
- Plug modem directly into computer, not into PC
- Unplug *** devices (USB joystick and pedals)
- Tweak broadband settings (www.speedguide.net)

Obviously I will still use some of these (killing
processes, broadband tweaks, etc.) especially
if I want to try to host some races.

--
Doug Appleyard

"Got us a Dirt Track Date, demolition derby figure 8"
   -- Southern Culture On The Skids

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