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Jim, do brake locks up under heavy braking in N2?

Tom

Jim, do brake locks up under heavy braking in N2?

by Tom » Thu, 24 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Jim, do brake locks up under heavy braking in N2? See I tried to brake really
hard and turn into the pits, but the car just wouldn't turn.

TOlson94

Jim, do brake locks up under heavy braking in N2?

by TOlson94 » Thu, 24 Apr 1997 04:00:00

I don't think that N2 has that feature. Try to lift off the brakes a bit
as you turn the car.

Mark

Jim, do brake locks up under heavy braking in N2?

by Mark » Thu, 24 Apr 1997 04:00:00

IN my experience,  they don't until 29 mph or so.
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> >Jim, do brake locks up under heavy braking in N2? See I tried to brake
really
> >hard and turn into the pits, but the car just wouldn't turn.

> They most definitely do.  In real life there's no such thing as
> anti-lock brakes on a stock car.

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zone

Jim, do brake locks up under heavy braking in N2?

by zone » Thu, 24 Apr 1997 04:00:00

:

:
: >Jim, do brake locks up under heavy braking in N2? See I tried to brake really
: >hard and turn into the pits, but the car just wouldn't turn.
:
: They most definitely do.  In real life there's no such thing as
: anti-lock brakes on a stock car.

Kyle,

The current physics model in N2 does NOT support the locking up of the
brakes, the new physics model that Papy is working on will support it.

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: Kyle Langston
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JHabi3

Jim, do brake locks up under heavy braking in N2?

by JHabi3 » Thu, 24 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Maybe it does why else would he go staight when he was trying to turn and
had heavy brakes on. In real life if you lock the brakes and try to turn
you ain't going to turn. Just my thought. Good answer though lift the
brakes alittle ( SMILE )

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TOlson94

Jim, do brake locks up under heavy braking in N2?

by TOlson94 » Fri, 25 Apr 1997 04:00:00

I've never heard anywhere that the you can lock up the brakes in N2, and I
don't think that you can. I could be wrong, though. To a certain extent,
the same thing happens in N1 and ICR2, but you cannot lock up the brakes
there. My guess is that the understeer is caused by the speed he is going
at or because of the weight transfer going on. I suggested that he should
ease off the brakes so that there isn't all that understeer, but that the
weight shift is still significant enough to give the front tires enough
grip to turn the car.

Jim Sokolo

Jim, do brake locks up under heavy braking in N2?

by Jim Sokolo » Fri, 25 Apr 1997 04:00:00


>Jim, do brake locks up under heavy braking in N2? See I tried to brake really
>hard and turn into the pits, but the car just wouldn't turn.

They do not. The available lateral grip (to turn) is however reduced
under hard braking, and this might be causing the understeer you
mention. (The other possibility of course is that you were just plain
going too damn fast to make the turn in the space available... ;-) )

---Jim

Mike Fraz

Jim, do brake locks up under heavy braking in N2?

by Mike Fraz » Fri, 25 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Hit reverse.  Be careful,  it will come 'round on ya dang fast.

Mike Frazer


>Jim, do brake locks up under heavy braking in N2? See I tried to brake really
>hard and turn into the pits, but the car just wouldn't turn.

Mike Frazer
#11 American Airlines/STP/MBNA Ford, IGN
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Drbob

Jim, do brake locks up under heavy braking in N2?

by Drbob » Fri, 25 Apr 1997 04:00:00

          You could exceed the traction capability of the tires even
without actually locking the wheels.  IMHO, the lack of brake feedback
(could be sound based) is the least realistic part of the sims.  I'd want
force feedback their before I'd want it for steering.

                            bob

ymenar

Jim, do brake locks up under heavy braking in N2?

by ymenar » Fri, 25 Apr 1997 04:00:00


> Maybe it does why else would he go staight when he was trying to turn and
> had heavy brakes on. In real life if you lock the brakes and try to turn
> you ain't going to turn. Just my thought. Good answer though lift the
> brakes alittle ( SMILE )

>                                                                   Thanks


Remember N1.  At Watkins Glen, going into the chicane, you had to brake
going in (I hope [-:  ).  If you turned the steering wheel when braking,
you slided, swinged and slammed into the wall.  But in N2, there's
little brake lock so now I can brake without ending up my day on the
wall.  The wall I'm speaking is the fake one so we cannot short-cut.  So
I think that there's little brake lock, but not like GP2. Thanks a lot,

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