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The Cars of Gran Turismo...NOT!

Steve Smit

The Cars of Gran Turismo...NOT!

by Steve Smit » Sun, 25 Jan 2004 05:30:28

Don't bother.  There's a new book out by the widely unknown Canadian author
Huw Evans called "The Cars of Gran Turismo," a 96-page paperback available
from the publisher, Motorbooks International for $14.95 (or from Amazon for
a couple of bucks less) that purports to be about the cars featured in
Sony's hugely popular PlayStation game.  (Over 15 million copies sold...up
to the by-now-2-year-old "GT3: A-Spec," that is, not about the upcoming
"GT4," which will reportedly include 500 licensed cars!)  In it, the good
Huw thanks everybody from his mother to his dry cleaner's tax attorney...but
not Kaz Yamauchi, the genius behind the half-arcade/half-sim series (and a
god in Japan, where his company now sells RW add-ons like hood scoops and
fancy rims for the "Drift" crowd).

Indeed, there is nothing about the game in the book.  Not one screen shot,
not one car, not one track.  Only the RW cars that "inspired" the cars in
Gran Turismo (like the ever-popular Yaris T-Sport, the Mazda Eunos, and the
Spoon 2000...named after the curve at Suzuka, perhaps?).  There are some
specs and driving impressions, but nothing that might link the RW cars to
the game.  We are left to wonder what might have been....

Nice price; shame about the content.

Mike Beaucham

The Cars of Gran Turismo...NOT!

by Mike Beaucham » Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:04:31

You just said the book " purports to be about the cars featured in
Sony's hugely popular PlayStation game.", but your complaining that the book
only has information about cars and not the game itself?  Maybe I read your
message wrong... But, the book being about cars and not a video game is
exactly what I'd expect.

I'm just guessin' on this too, but the "Spoon 2000" might be named after the
company, Spoon (which I think builds aftermarket engines) instead of a
corner at Suzuka.

Were you expecting the book to describe how the cars in the game handle?

Mike
http://mikebeauchamp.com


Steve Smit

The Cars of Gran Turismo...NOT!

by Steve Smit » Sun, 25 Jan 2004 22:53:43

No, I was expecting a connecting thread, just as when I wrote the strategy
guide for GPL, I didn't just describe what was inside the game, I tried to
bridge the gap between the RW and the sim world.  That, immodestly, is why I
think "Four-Wheel Drift" worked...and why Huw's book doesn't.

Otherwise, it's just a badly thought-out book about a random collection of
cars, most of which aren't available in this side of the Rim and thus are of
little interest to American readers.  Anybody that would would call the
butt-ugly Mazda Cosmo "beautiful" isn't playing with a full aesthetic deck.
It's gushing "fan lit," nothing more.

What makes you think Spoon (a Mazda tuner) *isn't* named after the corner at
Suzuka?


> You just said the book " purports to be about the cars featured in
> Sony's hugely popular PlayStation game.", but your complaining that the
book
> only has information about cars and not the game itself?  Maybe I read
your
> message wrong... But, the book being about cars and not a video game is
> exactly what I'd expect.

> I'm just guessin' on this too, but the "Spoon 2000" might be named after
the
> company, Spoon (which I think builds aftermarket engines) instead of a
> corner at Suzuka.

> Were you expecting the book to describe how the cars in the game handle?

> Mike
> http://mikebeauchamp.com



> > Don't bother.  There's a new book out by the widely unknown Canadian
> author
> > Huw Evans called "The Cars of Gran Turismo," a 96-page paperback
available
> > from the publisher, Motorbooks International for $14.95 (or from Amazon
> for
> > a couple of bucks less) that purports to be about the cars featured in
> > Sony's hugely popular PlayStation game.  (Over 15 million copies
sold...up
> > to the by-now-2-year-old "GT3: A-Spec," that is, not about the upcoming
> > "GT4," which will reportedly include 500 licensed cars!)  In it, the
good
> > Huw thanks everybody from his mother to his dry cleaner's tax
> attorney...but
> > not Kaz Yamauchi, the genius behind the half-arcade/half-sim series (and
a
> > god in Japan, where his company now sells RW add-ons like hood scoops
and
> > fancy rims for the "Drift" crowd).

> > Indeed, there is nothing about the game in the book.  Not one screen
shot,
> > not one car, not one track.  Only the RW cars that "inspired" the cars
in
> > Gran Turismo (like the ever-popular Yaris T-Sport, the Mazda Eunos, and
> the
> > Spoon 2000...named after the curve at Suzuka, perhaps?).  There are some
> > specs and driving impressions, but nothing that might link the RW cars
to
> > the game.  We are left to wonder what might have been....

> > Nice price; shame about the content.

Internet Use

The Cars of Gran Turismo...NOT!

by Internet Use » Sun, 25 Jan 2004 23:18:48


> Otherwise, it's just a badly thought-out book about a random collection of
> cars, most of which aren't available in this side of the Rim and thus are of
> little interest to American readers.

I think this is exactly why this book is of interest to American
readers.  Rice boys drool over the cars of Japan which has contributed
to the success of the GT series.  Reading about cars I can't own is the
reason I buy the UK mag CAR.

Isn't Spoon a Honda tuner?  Thus the Spoon S2000.

Jay

The Cars of Gran Turismo...NOT!

by Jay » Sun, 25 Jan 2004 23:26:53

Perhaps he didn't have any legal right, or license agreement to include
information about the game, and thus apparently omitted all references
except the book title of course?

Just a guess...But if Sony or Kaz Yamauchi wanted a big fee for those
things, perhaps this guy weaseled out and thus only showed pictures and
descriptions of real-world cars?


> No, I was expecting a connecting thread, just as when I wrote the strategy
> guide for GPL, I didn't just describe what was inside the game, I tried to
> bridge the gap between the RW and the sim world.  That, immodestly, is why
I
> think "Four-Wheel Drift" worked...and why Huw's book doesn't.

> Otherwise, it's just a badly thought-out book about a random collection of
> cars, most of which aren't available in this side of the Rim and thus are
of
> little interest to American readers.  Anybody that would would call the
> butt-ugly Mazda Cosmo "beautiful" isn't playing with a full aesthetic
deck.
> It's gushing "fan lit," nothing more.

> What makes you think Spoon (a Mazda tuner) *isn't* named after the corner
at
> Suzuka?



> > You just said the book " purports to be about the cars featured in
> > Sony's hugely popular PlayStation game.", but your complaining that the
> book
> > only has information about cars and not the game itself?  Maybe I read
> your
> > message wrong... But, the book being about cars and not a video game is
> > exactly what I'd expect.

> > I'm just guessin' on this too, but the "Spoon 2000" might be named after
> the
> > company, Spoon (which I think builds aftermarket engines) instead of a
> > corner at Suzuka.

> > Were you expecting the book to describe how the cars in the game handle?

> > Mike
> > http://mikebeauchamp.com



> > > Don't bother.  There's a new book out by the widely unknown Canadian
> > author
> > > Huw Evans called "The Cars of Gran Turismo," a 96-page paperback
> available
> > > from the publisher, Motorbooks International for $14.95 (or from
Amazon
> > for
> > > a couple of bucks less) that purports to be about the cars featured in
> > > Sony's hugely popular PlayStation game.  (Over 15 million copies
> sold...up
> > > to the by-now-2-year-old "GT3: A-Spec," that is, not about the
upcoming
> > > "GT4," which will reportedly include 500 licensed cars!)  In it, the
> good
> > > Huw thanks everybody from his mother to his dry cleaner's tax
> > attorney...but
> > > not Kaz Yamauchi, the genius behind the half-arcade/half-sim series
(and
> a
> > > god in Japan, where his company now sells RW add-ons like hood scoops
> and
> > > fancy rims for the "Drift" crowd).

> > > Indeed, there is nothing about the game in the book.  Not one screen
> shot,
> > > not one car, not one track.  Only the RW cars that "inspired" the cars
> in
> > > Gran Turismo (like the ever-popular Yaris T-Sport, the Mazda Eunos,
and
> > the
> > > Spoon 2000...named after the curve at Suzuka, perhaps?).  There are
some
> > > specs and driving impressions, but nothing that might link the RW cars
> to
> > > the game.  We are left to wonder what might have been....

> > > Nice price; shame about the content.

Steve Smit

The Cars of Gran Turismo...NOT!

by Steve Smit » Sun, 25 Jan 2004 23:51:03

Sorry, yer right.  Honda tuner, indeed.



> > Otherwise, it's just a badly thought-out book about a random collection
of
> > cars, most of which aren't available in this side of the Rim and thus
are of
> > little interest to American readers.

> I think this is exactly why this book is of interest to American
> readers.  Rice boys drool over the cars of Japan which has contributed
> to the success of the GT series.  Reading about cars I can't own is the
> reason I buy the UK mag CAR.

> > What makes you think Spoon (a Mazda tuner) *isn't* named after the
corner at
> > Suzuka?

> Isn't Spoon a Honda tuner?  Thus the Spoon S2000.

Steve Smit

The Cars of Gran Turismo...NOT!

by Steve Smit » Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:33:08

You can write a book about almost anything without paying any licensing fees
or obtaining permission (so long as you're not libelous).  Likewise, you can
paint a picture (altho not neccessarily print a photograph) of objects
protected by intellectual property laws.  It's only things like games and
model cars for which you need special dispensation.

Huw's stated purpose in the book is to "give both gamers and enthusiasts an
insight into this popular and colorful game."  In this mission, he has
utterly failed, IMO.


> Perhaps he didn't have any legal right, or license agreement to include
> information about the game, and thus apparently omitted all references
> except the book title of course?

> Just a guess...But if Sony or Kaz Yamauchi wanted a big fee for those
> things, perhaps this guy weaseled out and thus only showed pictures and
> descriptions of real-world cars?



> > No, I was expecting a connecting thread, just as when I wrote the
strategy
> > guide for GPL, I didn't just describe what was inside the game, I tried
to
> > bridge the gap between the RW and the sim world.  That, immodestly, is
why
> I
> > think "Four-Wheel Drift" worked...and why Huw's book doesn't.

> > Otherwise, it's just a badly thought-out book about a random collection
of
> > cars, most of which aren't available in this side of the Rim and thus
are
> of
> > little interest to American readers.  Anybody that would would call the
> > butt-ugly Mazda Cosmo "beautiful" isn't playing with a full aesthetic
> deck.
> > It's gushing "fan lit," nothing more.

> > What makes you think Spoon (a Mazda tuner) *isn't* named after the
corner
> at
> > Suzuka?



> > > You just said the book " purports to be about the cars featured in
> > > Sony's hugely popular PlayStation game.", but your complaining that
the
> > book
> > > only has information about cars and not the game itself?  Maybe I read
> > your
> > > message wrong... But, the book being about cars and not a video game
is
> > > exactly what I'd expect.

> > > I'm just guessin' on this too, but the "Spoon 2000" might be named
after
> > the
> > > company, Spoon (which I think builds aftermarket engines) instead of a
> > > corner at Suzuka.

> > > Were you expecting the book to describe how the cars in the game
handle?

> > > Mike
> > > http://mikebeauchamp.com



> > > > Don't bother.  There's a new book out by the widely unknown Canadian
> > > author
> > > > Huw Evans called "The Cars of Gran Turismo," a 96-page paperback
> > available
> > > > from the publisher, Motorbooks International for $14.95 (or from
> Amazon
> > > for
> > > > a couple of bucks less) that purports to be about the cars featured
in
> > > > Sony's hugely popular PlayStation game.  (Over 15 million copies
> > sold...up
> > > > to the by-now-2-year-old "GT3: A-Spec," that is, not about the
> upcoming
> > > > "GT4," which will reportedly include 500 licensed cars!)  In it, the
> > good
> > > > Huw thanks everybody from his mother to his dry cleaner's tax
> > > attorney...but
> > > > not Kaz Yamauchi, the genius behind the half-arcade/half-sim series
> (and
> > a
> > > > god in Japan, where his company now sells RW add-ons like hood
scoops
> > and
> > > > fancy rims for the "Drift" crowd).

> > > > Indeed, there is nothing about the game in the book.  Not one screen
> > shot,
> > > > not one car, not one track.  Only the RW cars that "inspired" the
cars
> > in
> > > > Gran Turismo (like the ever-popular Yaris T-Sport, the Mazda Eunos,
> and
> > > the
> > > > Spoon 2000...named after the curve at Suzuka, perhaps?).  There are
> some
> > > > specs and driving impressions, but nothing that might link the RW
cars
> > to
> > > > the game.  We are left to wonder what might have been....

> > > > Nice price; shame about the content.


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