Agree or disagree, but my next installment is up at Digital Sportspage. It
might generate a little arguing, but what the heck..that's never stopped me
from expressing my opinion before! <G>
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Randy Magruder
Digital Sportspage
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Randy Magruder
> Digital Sportspage
There are 2 kinds of racers: simers and arcaders. The first kind wants
to have ultimate reality. We want all the details. We want the game to
be tough to beat. We want it to be close to reality. Because it's
probably the closest we'll ever come to really racing. It's the
unexpensive way of doing it. It's a hobby. And then ,there is the
arcader. These guys don't really care about braking in the corners. All
they want to do is keep the pedal to the metal. Which is good, of you
like that sort of thing. They won't really care about a 500 laps race
that last 3 hours. All they want is a quick rush. And a timer that
decreases lap after lap. Quick, you only have 3 seconds to reach the
next way point...
I watch a Nascar race, watch how the drivers go in the grove, at what
point they break. I feel satisfaction when I can replicate their moves
in a sim. Match their qual speeds. That's very fun.
Racing against the computer, after some time, gets a bit boring. That is
why more and more games are designed to be played against a large group
of humans on the internet. Hahh... there's nothing like healthy
competition...
I hope they continue to make racing sims they way they are right now...
And buy the way, do you consider Nascar Racing 2 a *** racing game?
It's very hard to master, yet they sold a million (or more I don't
really know) of the game... Not bad.
Just my little comment.
Philippe Sergerie
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Randy Magruder
> Digital Sportspage
There are 2 kinds of racers: simers and arcaders. The first kind wants
to have ultimate reality. We want all the details. We want the game to
be tough to beat. We want it to be close to reality. Because it's
probably the closest we'll ever come to really racing. It's the
unexpensive way of doing it. It's a hobby. And then ,there is the
arcader. These guys don't really care about braking in the corners. All
they want to do is keep the pedal to the metal. Which is good, of you
like that sort of thing. They won't really care about a 500 laps race
that last 3 hours. All they want is a quick rush. And a timer that
decreases lap after lap. Quick, you only have 3 seconds to reach the
next way point...
I watch a Nascar race, watch how the drivers go in the grove, at what
point they break. I feel satisfaction when I can replicate their moves
in a sim. Match their qual speeds. That's very fun.
Racing against the computer, after some time, gets a bit boring. That is
why more and more games are designed to be played against a large group
of humans on the internet. Hahh... there's nothing like healthy
competition...
I hope they continue to make racing sims they way they are right now...
And buy the way, do you consider Nascar Racing 2 a *** racing game?
It's very hard to master, yet they sold a million (or more I don't
really know) of the game... Not bad.
Just my little comment.
Philippe Sergerie
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Randy Magruder
> Digital Sportspage
There are 2 kinds of racers: simers and arcaders. The first kind wants
to have ultimate reality. We want all the details. We want the game to
be tough to beat. We want it to be close to reality. Because it's
probably the closest we'll ever come to really racing. It's the
unexpensive way of doing it. It's a hobby. And then ,there is the
arcader. These guys don't really care about braking in the corners. All
they want to do is keep the pedal to the metal. Which is good, of you
like that sort of thing. They won't really care about a 500 laps race
that last 3 hours. All they want is a quick rush. And a timer that
decreases lap after lap. Quick, you only have 3 seconds to reach the
next way point...
I watch a Nascar race, watch how the drivers go in the grove, at what
point they break. I feel satisfaction when I can replicate their moves
in a sim. Match their qual speeds. That's very fun.
Racing against the computer, after some time, gets a bit boring. That is
why more and more games are designed to be played against a large group
of humans on the internet. Hahh... there's nothing like healthy
competition...
I hope they continue to make racing sims they way they are right now...
And buy the way, do you consider Nascar Racing 2 a *** racing game?
It's very hard to master, yet they sold a million (or more I don't
really know) of the game... Not bad.
Just my little comment.
Philippe Sergerie
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Randy Magruder
> Digital Sportspage
There are 2 kinds of racers: simers and arcaders. The first kind wants
to have ultimate reality. We want all the details. We want the game to
be tough to beat. We want it to be close to reality. Because it's
probably the closest we'll ever come to really racing. It's the
unexpensive way of doing it. It's a hobby. And then ,there is the
arcader. These guys don't really care about braking in the corners. All
they want to do is keep the pedal to the metal. Which is good, of you
like that sort of thing. They won't really care about a 500 laps race
that last 3 hours. All they want is a quick rush. And a timer that
decreases lap after lap. Quick, you only have 3 seconds to reach the
next way point...
I watch a Nascar race, watch how the drivers go in the grove, at what
point they break. I feel satisfaction when I can replicate their moves
in a sim. Match their qual speeds. That's very fun.
Racing against the computer, after some time, gets a bit boring. That is
why more and more games are designed to be played against a large group
of humans on the internet. Hahh... there's nothing like healthy
competition...
I hope they continue to make racing sims they way they are right now...
And buy the way, do you consider Nascar Racing 2 a *** racing game?
It's very hard to master, yet they sold a million (or more I don't
really know) of the game... Not bad.
Just my little comment.
Philippe Sergerie
> What I don't agree with in your article, and also here at r.a.s., is the
> assumption that arcade drivers are less skilled at driving games, and are
> unable to jump up to the so called "ultimate" level of sims. Also, the
> assumption that they would even want to.
However, having said that, I must say that the physics model in GPL is
brilliantly and awesomly amazing and is tremendously difficult to
master.
There's a bucket over there in the corner!! :o)
--
Regards,
Bruce.
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Christer,
Watch your back, Bernie E. doesn't like to hear that kind of talk! It scares
him!
don
"To race is to live, everything else is just waiting." - Rudi Caricciola
It's harder to sell ANY motorsport in the US of A if it aint
NASCAR....isn't that so?
> Its harder to sell them domestically if they aren't
> NASCAR though.
The reason for you being fast almost immidiately in F1RS, you said it yourself -
It has the same game engine as POD with which you're very familiar with and then
you also compare your lap times with sim racers who isn't used to that game
engine.
/Christer, it's all about talent and practice, nothing else...
Well, the true optimist can always say - At least I'm not dead :o).
/Christer
Joe McGinn
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Author of Inside LotusScript
http://www.manning.com/McGinn/459.html
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Had the marketeers behind the NASCAR wave got their collective
heads together for say, "Women On Motor Bikes All Taking Steroids"
(WOMBATS), then I think it would become the motorsport of choice
here in the States. ;)
...come to think of it, I bet it would make for an interesting sim
as well...Ah, I can see the r.a.s. thread-headers now:
"WOMBAT-2: Physics Realistic??"
-or-
"The WOMBAT Project: New ***s for WOMBAT-2!!"
*<|:+)
Cheers!
Marc
> It's harder to sell ANY motorsport in the US of A if it aint
> NASCAR....isn't that so?
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> > Both numbers are worldwide. Certainly worldwide there is plenty of
> > interest in sims. Its harder to sell them domestically if they aren't
> > NASCAR though.
> When you say domestically, which of the the many countries in the world do you mean?
l8er
ronny
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kiddo?"
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>>There are 2 kinds of racers: simers and arcaders.
>This is a myth, which I disagree with completely. I prefer good (i.e.,
>semi-realistic, like NFS 1) arcade racers, but am also interested in
>sims - I have bought almost all of them. But I have never been
>captivated by a sim, for precisely the reasons that Randy outlined in
>his article.
Let's say... a Simarcader ;-))
- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-)
- Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
- Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club
- Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking)
- Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking)
- "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--
Theme song - "Fat bottomed girls you make the racing world go
round....yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaah, fat bottomed girls............". Ahh, I can just see it now!
All those steroid swollen buttocks, hehehehehehehe.
> ...come to think of it, I bet it would make for an interesting sim
> as well...Ah, I can see the r.a.s. thread-headers now:
> "WOMBAT-2: Physics Realistic??"
> -or-
> "The WOMBAT Project: New ***s for WOMBAT-2!!"
> *<|:+)
> Cheers!
> Marc
> > It's harder to sell ANY motorsport in the US of A if it aint
> > NASCAR....isn't that so?
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