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-= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
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-= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-= May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

    Exactly, because we all know that's why they make arcade racing games for those who don't care to do what a real driver does in a real simulation, which is what this newsgroup is all about, SIMS NOT ARCADE GAMES, and of course, EA makes great arcade racers... but that's not a SIM now is it?  So let's ignore this rediuclous post which makes no sense since we all know these facts and that EA sucks at making sims!

    Jon

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You don't see us go lurk and troll in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.*   saying how
bad arcade games are.  The same is done in the Air simulators newsgroup.
They will flame the producers of arcade-style air simulators, but you don't
see them go in other newsgroup who talk about those arcade-style sims and
bash them.

But the main problem is that the EA marketing (or many arcade-style
producers) will hype their titles using stuff that are almost lies and
pushing the limits of "sportsmanship" in the terms they use such as : "The
first playable racing title", "Full simulation depth" and even "New
Physically modeled engine using Staccato DSP technology".  Wow what a ***
hype Im sorry but cmon...

No not at all ;-)

-= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
-= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-= SimRacing Online http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-= May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

This is the best news ive heard in a long time. EA sports make some of the
best sports games around. With each sport they get the TV feeling just right
so i cant wait to see tv style replays with fluid Murray speech going
"FAAAANNNTAAASSTIIICC" . The norm for EA sims is the yearly update, this
suits me to a tee :) All the new teams, drivers, tracks and improved
graphics gameplay with each version is what modern F1 racers really need
badly.

As for those ***y nerds that turned the last thread into an epic about how
unrealistic EA sports games are and that the game is going to be an arcady
pice of crap, well I think your using the wrong joystic...
Stop playing with your***s idiots just because you can drive around the
ring in gpl doesn't mean you would have the balls, strength or ability to
get around it on a push bike.

To us normal gamers stilling at a normal pc looking at a 15" monitor it is
impossible to replicate what the drivers go through. I think some of you
don't know what simulate means, it certanly doesn't mean replicate. Just
because a sim is hard to drive it doesn't mean the genius behind it has
given you the experience of what it might be like. GPL is an amazing pice of
software (not a sim or game) the physics of the cars are probably spot on,
but what does that mean to mr computer player at his desk without years of
racing experience or the g-forces and hundreds of other senses like steering
feedback, vibration etc to help them drive it? Not much unless youve got
lots of time on your hands.

EA sport make great games, I hope I come away from there F1 game feeling
some of the e***ment, sights and sounds that a driver experiences without
having to develop the impressive but ultimately usless ability to drive an
car fast by remote control....

Please! No one bother biting this bait! We'll save a lot of time and
bandwidth!

Thanks.

im here all the time and its not bait its my opinion. Did you read my post?
I couldnt have complemented GPL's physics more if I got on my hands and
knees. I was just saying that its not much of a game and its not fair on the
player to expect them to get to grips with it using a joystic and pc. Just
because all car games are more accesable than gpl doesn't make them
inferior.

Your welcome.

No that wouldnt be fair, what did i say was bad about sims? Im not a troll
whateva the hell it is :) I play flight sims aswell. But I also get angry at
the people who drill games like Fighters Anthology for not being totally
***with flight models. I play falcon 4 for the realism challenge and
Fighters Anthology for the thrill, dont you think your heart would be
beating if somebody was trying to shoot you down??? FA does that for me
cause its fast and uncomplicated while falcon 4 doesnt because its slow and
technical. One simulates the fear the other simulates the technicalitys.

Tell me why both arent sims?

Maby your right, I dont know what that stuff is about. I haven checked out
nascar revolution. EA is a big american company you have to expect hype :)

Good, I suppose you've got a wheel then :) Lucky fella.

Rodster is back ! Plonk all you *** hoes.

     What in THE hell are you talkin' about boy?   Who the hell said
they could drive The Ring in an F1 (or retro F1) car?   Where the *** is
all this attitude comin' from?   Relax.

     Clearly nobody thinks that playing a driving simulator on their
computer is anything like the real thing.   Some may sound like it, but
I've got enough faith (and not one to try and read between the lines) in
the relative sanity around here to think they know quite well that GPL is
one thing, reality is quite another.
     I think YOU don't know what simulate means.   At least not in the
context of a driving simulator.   All we're looking for is a sim that, AS
ACCURATELY AS POSSIBLE (within the confines of a piece of computer
software) models as many aspects of auto racing possible.   Physics,
Mechanics,
Realism, Etc.
      If "Mr Computer Player" can't deal with that; fine.   If it's too much
for
him/her; fine.   Mebbe they'd be better off playing something
easier...something
the industry has dubbed: "arcadish".   There's certainly no reason to feel
inadequate.   They just don't care for the complexity.   Fine.   There's
nothin'
wrong with that.
      Will EA do this (make a simulator)?   Nope.   They'll make a real
good arcade game.

     There's nothing wrong with that.   More power to ya.   Hope you have
fun.
     Mebbe some of us want a little more?

S.C. "Gritz" Petty
Spectre Racing
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Slobber, drool!

You're a creative optimist, Richard. Still trying to get those wings to stick on
that pig? :-)....

Cheers,
Paul