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Just Finished A Race At Riverside

William Bradsha

Just Finished A Race At Riverside

by William Bradsha » Mon, 05 May 2003 13:57:33

...in NR2002. And let me tell ya, that track is FUN! Hands down, it is
now my favorite road course. I hope to race some people online on the
track some day, because the AI leave a lot to be desired (though, I do
believe the improper lines they run here and there, and the speeds, need
adjusted).

Will's Racing And Winning Tip O' The Day: When at Riverside, should your
car get up on it's side with your back tires touching the wall, never
forget that you /can/ get traction on the wall. ;)

-Will

don hodgdo

Just Finished A Race At Riverside

by don hodgdo » Mon, 05 May 2003 00:25:05

Yes, it's really too bad the AI suck so bad at Riverside. It is a fun track.

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don

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Steve Smit

Just Finished A Race At Riverside

by Steve Smit » Thu, 08 May 2003 21:03:27

Yes, and THANKS, Don, for posting all those great nostalgic snapshots from
"The Palace of Speed" on http://forum.m4driving.sm.


> Yes, it's really too bad the AI suck so bad at Riverside. It is a fun
track.

> --
> don

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> > ...in NR2002. And let me tell ya, that track is FUN! Hands down, it is
> > now my favorite road course. I hope to race some people online on the
> > track some day, because the AI leave a lot to be desired (though, I do
> > believe the improper lines they run here and there, and the speeds, need
> > adjusted).

> > Will's Racing And Winning Tip O' The Day: When at Riverside, should your
> > car get up on it's side with your back tires touching the wall, never
> > forget that you /can/ get traction on the wall. ;)

> > -Will

don hodgdo

Just Finished A Race At Riverside

by don hodgdo » Sat, 10 May 2003 08:36:22

My pleasure Steve, anything to promote the memory of a damn fine race track.

I have LOTS more.

Don


> Yes, and THANKS, Don, for posting all those great nostalgic snapshots from
> "The Palace of Speed" on http://forum.m4driving.sm.



> > Yes, it's really too bad the AI suck so bad at Riverside. It is a fun
> track.

> > --
> > don

A.M.Troni

Just Finished A Race At Riverside

by A.M.Troni » Mon, 12 May 2003 00:29:32

I love Riverside but HATE HATE HATE the sand.  Just too sticky
if you get a wheel off.
MadDAW

Just Finished A Race At Riverside

by MadDAW » Mon, 12 May 2003 00:33:08


Not to mention you can't see chit when the AI go thru it. lol

MadDAWG

William Bradsha

Just Finished A Race At Riverside

by William Bradsha » Mon, 12 May 2003 01:00:52


> I love Riverside but HATE HATE HATE the sand.  Just too sticky
> if you get a wheel off.

I'll agree with you here, and it's even worse with TC on. As you know,
if a driver just uses up a little too much track there, he'll be
fighting the car. It's a pain in the ass when you're trying to get back
onto the racing surface, too. Yet, it's a easy track for a person to
learn the braking points. Let's not talk about AI piling up and you've
got nowhere to go except in the sand, or a AI decides to send you on a
helicopter ride. ;)

On the other hand, this is one of the few tracks where I feel really
comfortable using the in-car camera instead of the roof camera. I can't
explain it, but I can negotiate the corners better in-car.

-Will

ssra

Just Finished A Race At Riverside

by ssra » Mon, 12 May 2003 09:39:48

On Sat, 10 May 2003 11:00:52 -0500, William Bradshaw



>> I love Riverside but HATE HATE HATE the sand.  Just too sticky
>> if you get a wheel off.

>I'll agree with you here, and it's even worse with TC on. As you know,
>if a driver just uses up a little too much track there, he'll be
>fighting the car. It's a pain in the ass when you're trying to get back
>onto the racing surface, too. Yet, it's a easy track for a person to
>learn the braking points. Let's not talk about AI piling up and you've
>got nowhere to go except in the sand, or a AI decides to send you on a
>helicopter ride. ;)

>On the other hand, this is one of the few tracks where I feel really
>comfortable using the in-car camera instead of the roof camera. I can't
>explain it, but I can negotiate the corners better in-car.

>-Will

 How sticky is it? from watching clips of riverside everyting I have
seen made it look basicaly like a dirt road(IE packed but with plenty
of dust to***of thoe behind you while you might lose 2/10th of a
lap)
William Bradsha

Just Finished A Race At Riverside

by William Bradsha » Mon, 12 May 2003 22:07:56


>  How sticky is it? from watching clips of riverside everyting I have
> seen made it look basicaly like a dirt road(IE packed but with plenty
> of dust to***of thoe behind you while you might lose 2/10th of a
> lap)

It looks like dirt, but don't let that fool ya. It's sand all of the
way. Sticky, horrible sand. It's bad enough to take me at /least/ 10-20
seconds just getting out of the stuff. It's one of them deals where you
have to run the engine up to 9000 RPM's just to get going, then shift up
to second to get a little forward speed. Then rinse and repeat every
time you go to the beach. But the track is like, well, a track. I
haven't noticed any dust clouds to obscure my vision in the sim.

As for just getting two tires down there, it'll bog you down big time.
The car will want to slow down while you're cranking the wheel hard
right to just get out of it. Fun fun fun!

I can understand the reasoning for having sand, though, for driver
safety. But it's still a big pain in the ass. :)

-Will

don hodgdo

Just Finished A Race At Riverside

by don hodgdo » Wed, 14 May 2003 08:02:02

Yeah, it's too bad someone can't fix the sticky sand effect there. Let me
assure you, in real life there was no sand at RIR. It was hard packed desert
dirt. Many was the time I watched Richard Petty straightline the esses and
never lose a place. Left a helluva dust cloud though ;-)

Don



> >  How sticky is it? from watching clips of riverside everyting I have
> > seen made it look basicaly like a dirt road(IE packed but with plenty
> > of dust to***of thoe behind you while you might lose 2/10th of a
> > lap)

> It looks like dirt, but don't let that fool ya. It's sand all of the
> way. Sticky, horrible sand. It's bad enough to take me at /least/ 10-20
> seconds just getting out of the stuff. It's one of them deals where you
> have to run the engine up to 9000 RPM's just to get going, then shift up
> to second to get a little forward speed. Then rinse and repeat every
> time you go to the beach. But the track is like, well, a track. I
> haven't noticed any dust clouds to obscure my vision in the sim.

> As for just getting two tires down there, it'll bog you down big time.
> The car will want to slow down while you're cranking the wheel hard
> right to just get out of it. Fun fun fun!

> I can understand the reasoning for having sand, though, for driver
> safety. But it's still a big pain in the ass. :)

> -Will


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