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ANYBODY A DIAMOND EDGE 3D

R. van Ri

ANYBODY A DIAMOND EDGE 3D

by R. van Ri » Thu, 21 Dec 1995 04:00:00

Is there anybody out there with the new Diamond Edge 3D Vram.

Please post some information.

Sean

ANYBODY A DIAMOND EDGE 3D

by Sean » Mon, 01 Jan 1996 04:00:00

  I have a 4MB. VRAM Edge 3-D,   It does not appear to be worth the
$567.00 that I paid for it.  I had been using a 2MB VRAM Stealth 64 Video,
and for the most part there is no differance.  SVGA Frame Rates in ICR-2,
F1GP, and Nascar are all the same as with the Stealth at the same detail
levels. (Which is to say too slow for me thanks) I am running it on a
Pentium 90, with 24MB of EDO Ram, and using a Mag Innovision DX-17F
monitor, with ECCI controls.  I was hoping to have one of the finest
*** systems around, but alas..... I cannot get satisfactory frame rates
at high detail levels.  I have tried all combinations of drivers (None,
Univibe, etc...) and nothing helps.  The card also has a built in 16bit
wavtable sound processor, which I disabled due to the fact that I already
own an AWE32 PNP w/Wave Blaster add-on.  If I try to run the special Edge
Ported copy of NASCAR that came with the card, I get beautiful frame rates
and detail, however there is no sound, as that copy of Nascar appears to
only work through the Edge's built in sound card.  (I can't believe that
Diamond does not realise that almost everybody who buys an Edge for $$$,
is probably already going to have a top of the line sound card.)

Overall - I would not have purchased it if I had realised that the
real-world performance gains would be un-noticable.

Sean Alexander

Gregory Fu

ANYBODY A DIAMOND EDGE 3D

by Gregory Fu » Wed, 03 Jan 1996 04:00:00


>  I have a 4MB. VRAM Edge 3-D,   It does not appear to be worth the
>$567.00 that I paid for it.  I had been using a 2MB VRAM Stealth 64 Video,
>and for the most part there is no differance.  SVGA Frame Rates in ICR-2,
>own an AWE32 PNP w/Wave Blaster add-on.  If I try to run the special Edge
>Ported copy of NASCAR that came with the card, I get beautiful frame rates
>and detail, however there is no sound, as that copy of Nascar appears to
>only work through the Edge's built in sound card.  (I can't believe that
>Diamond does not realise that almost everybody who buys an Edge for $$$,
>is probably already going to have a top of the line sound card.)

Well, if you were paying attention when you bought the card, the fact that
the card is a ACCELERATOR will pop out at you.  you'll need a SPECIAL
RECONPILED version of the game from papyrus to take advantage of your
accelerator.  PC-Gamer said they have a special version for every 3d
accelerator out there.  contact them.

Gregory Fung

Vancouver, B.C., Canada

Jamie Euban

ANYBODY A DIAMOND EDGE 3D

by Jamie Euban » Wed, 03 Jan 1996 04:00:00


>  I have a 4MB. VRAM Edge 3-D,   It does not appear to be worth the
>$567.00 that I paid for it.  I had been using a 2MB VRAM Stealth 64 Video,
>and for the most part there is no differance.  SVGA Frame Rates in ICR-2,
>F1GP, and Nascar are all the same as with the Stealth at the same detail
>levels. (Which is to say too slow for me thanks) I am running it on a
>Pentium 90, with 24MB of EDO Ram, and using a Mag Innovision DX-17F
>(deleted stuff)

Sean, I know what you're talking about.  I've been leery of these competing
3-D add-on boards, especially the 3-D blaster, since it doesn't even have
onboard VGA!  I got myself the Matrox MGA Millenium, which has turned out to
be a good purchase so far.  It also came with a special edition of NASCAR
and I can have all the graphic options turned on and still have an excellent
frame rate on my P-100.  The rest of my games run about the same as they did
with my Diamond Stealth VRAM.  The reason is simply that software must be
written specificially to take advantage of the 3-D hardware acceleration in
our cards.  I am kind of *** by buying now, but I'm betting that Matrox
is established enough that the game makers will need to support it.  Until
the game manufacturers write to support our 3-D cards, we won't see much if
any advantage over the old-style accelerators.

        -Jamie

Michel de Ro

ANYBODY A DIAMOND EDGE 3D

by Michel de Ro » Thu, 04 Jan 1996 04:00:00



>>  I have a 4MB. VRAM Edge 3-D,   It does not appear to be worth the
>>$567.00 that I paid for it.  I had been using a 2MB VRAM Stealth 64 Video,
>>and for the most part there is no differance.  SVGA Frame Rates in ICR-2,
>>F1GP, and Nascar are all the same as with the Stealth at the same detail
>>levels. (Which is to say too slow for me thanks) I am running it on a
>>Pentium 90, with 24MB of EDO Ram, and using a Mag Innovision DX-17F
>>(deleted stuff)
>Sean, I know what you're talking about.  I've been leery of these competing
>3-D add-on boards, especially the 3-D blaster, since it doesn't even have
>onboard VGA!  I got myself the Matrox MGA Millenium, which has turned out to
>be a good purchase so far.  It also came with a special edition of NASCAR
>and I can have all the graphic options turned on and still have an excellent
>frame rate on my P-100.  The rest of my games run about the same as they did
>with my Diamond Stealth VRAM.  The reason is simply that software must be
>written specificially to take advantage of the 3-D hardware acceleration in
>our cards.  I am kind of *** by buying now, but I'm betting that Matrox
>is established enough that the game makers will need to support it.  Until
>the game manufacturers write to support our 3-D cards, we won't see much if
>any advantage over the old-style accelerators.
>    -Jamie

Well, if SEGA really gets going (Sega Rally? Daytona?) this newsgroups readers
noses will probably point in the direction of "oooooh"'s, "aaah"'s and
"wow"'s...
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Mike Carrother

ANYBODY A DIAMOND EDGE 3D

by Mike Carrother » Thu, 04 Jan 1996 04:00:00


Rooy) writes:



>>>  I have a 4MB. VRAM Edge 3-D,   It does not appear to be worth the
>>>$567.00 that I paid for it.  I had been using a 2MB VRAM Stealth 64
Video,
>>>and for the most part there is no differance.  SVGA Frame Rates in
ICR-2,
>>>F1GP, and Nascar are all the same as with the Stealth at the same
detail
>>>levels. (Which is to say too slow for me thanks) I am running it on
a
>>>Pentium 90, with 24MB of EDO Ram, and using a Mag Innovision DX-17F
>>>(deleted stuff)

>>Sean, I know what you're talking about.  I've been leery of these
competing
>>3-D add-on boards, especially the 3-D blaster, since it doesn't even
have
>>onboard VGA!  I got myself the Matrox MGA Millenium, which has turned
out to
>>be a good purchase so far.  It also came with a special edition of
NASCAR
>>and I can have all the graphic options turned on and still have an
excellent
>>frame rate on my P-100.  The rest of my games run about the same as
they did
>>with my Diamond Stealth VRAM.  The reason is simply that software
must be
>>written specificially to take advantage of the 3-D hardware
acceleration in
>>our cards.  I am kind of *** by buying now, but I'm betting that
Matrox
>>is established enough that the game makers will need to support it.
Until
>>the game manufacturers write to support our 3-D cards, we won't see
much if
>>any advantage over the old-style accelerators.

>>        -Jamie

>Well, if SEGA really gets going (Sega Rally? Daytona?) this newsgroups
readers
>noses will probably point in the direction of "oooooh"'s, "aaah"'s and
>"wow"'s...
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Huh?
Sandma

ANYBODY A DIAMOND EDGE 3D

by Sandma » Fri, 05 Jan 1996 04:00:00


  When pigs fly.

Michel de Roo

ANYBODY A DIAMOND EDGE 3D

by Michel de Roo » Tue, 09 Jan 1996 04:00:00



>>Well, if SEGA really gets going (Sega Rally? Daytona?) this newsgroups readers
>>noses will probably point in the direction of "oooooh"'s, "aaah"'s and
>>"wow"'s...
>  When pigs fly.

When pigs fly, we will envy them
Michel de Ro

ANYBODY A DIAMOND EDGE 3D

by Michel de Ro » Fri, 19 Jan 1996 04:00:00



>>  I have a 4MB. VRAM Edge 3-D,   It does not appear to be worth the
>>$567.00 that I paid for it.  I had been using a 2MB VRAM Stealth 64 Video,
>>and for the most part there is no differance.  SVGA Frame Rates in ICR-2,
>>F1GP, and Nascar are all the same as with the Stealth at the same detail
>>levels. (Which is to say too slow for me thanks) I am running it on a
>>Pentium 90, with 24MB of EDO Ram, and using a Mag Innovision DX-17F
>>(deleted stuff)
>Sean, I know what you're talking about.  I've been leery of these competing
>3-D add-on boards, especially the 3-D blaster, since it doesn't even have
>onboard VGA!  I got myself the Matrox MGA Millenium, which has turned out to
>be a good purchase so far.  It also came with a special edition of NASCAR
>and I can have all the graphic options turned on and still have an excellent
>frame rate on my P-100.  The rest of my games run about the same as they did
>with my Diamond Stealth VRAM.  The reason is simply that software must be
>written specificially to take advantage of the 3-D hardware acceleration in
>our cards.  I am kind of *** by buying now, but I'm betting that Matrox
>is established enough that the game makers will need to support it.  Until
>the game manufacturers write to support our 3-D cards, we won't see much if
>any advantage over the old-style accelerators.
>    -Jamie

Well, if SEGA really gets going (Sega Rally? Daytona?) this newsgroups readers
noses will probably point in the direction of "oooooh"'s, "aaah"'s and
"wow"'s...
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Mike5001

ANYBODY A DIAMOND EDGE 3D

by Mike5001 » Mon, 22 Jan 1996 04:00:00


(Michel de Rooy) writes:
>>>  I have a 4MB. VRAM Edge 3-D,   It does not appear to be worth the
>>>$567.00 that I paid for it.  I had been using a 2MB VRAM Stealth 64
Video,
>>>and for the most part there is no differance.  SVGA Frame Rates in
ICR-2,
>>>F1GP, and Nascar are all the same as with the Stealth at the same
detail
>>>levels. (Which is to say too slow for me thanks) I am running it on a
>>>Pentium 90, with 24MB of EDO Ram, and using a Mag Innovision DX-17F
>>>(deleted stuff)

>>Sean, I know what you're talking about.  I've been leery of these
competing
>>3-D add-on boards, especially the 3-D blaster, since it doesn't even
have
>>onboard VGA!  I got myself the Matrox MGA Millenium, which has turned
out to
>>be a good purchase so far.  It also came with a special edition of
NASCAR
>>and I can have all the graphic options turned on and still have an
excellent
>>frame rate on my P-100.  The rest of my games run about the same as they
did
>>with my Diamond Stealth VRAM.  The reason is simply that software must
be
>>written specificially to take advantage of the 3-D hardware acceleration
in
>>our cards.  I am kind of *** by buying now, but I'm betting that
Matrox
>>is established enough that the game makers will need to support it.
Until
>>the game manufacturers write to support our 3-D cards, we won't see much
if
>>any advantage over the old-style accelerators.

>>        -Jamie

>Well, if SEGA really gets going (Sega Rally? Daytona?) this newsgroups
>readers
>noses will probably point in the direction of "oooooh"'s, "aaah"'s and
>"wow"'s...
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You have a driver that works with the Stealth 64!  Where is it, none of my
cool games (IndyCar II, NASCAR, NFS, ect.) work with it :-(

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