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Jeez, wheel is much faster than joystick

Destro

Jeez, wheel is much faster than joystick

by Destro » Tue, 16 Jan 2001 04:13:37

I've been hooked by the N4 demo and was using my joystick fairly
successfully with it, least I thought I was. How naive I was. I got a
wheel and have seen the true light. Perhaps there are some racing
protgs out there that can tear up a track with a joystick but for most
mortals to get great lap times a wheel is where its at. After 40 laps or
so and a bit of controller tweaking I easily beat my joystick lap times
by .2 sec. Still have a ways to go but I'm down to 38.2's now. :)

The wheel I have is borrowed (its a Thrustmaster GrandPrix1 with
brake/gas paddles on the wheel) and will need to buy my own.  I don't
need or want force feedback. Any recommendations for a wheel that works
well and is under say $60?

Mike Grand

Jeez, wheel is much faster than joystick

by Mike Grand » Tue, 16 Jan 2001 04:21:24

For $60 you can't go wrong with the TM Pro Digital 2.

> I've been hooked by the N4 demo and was using my joystick fairly
> successfully with it, least I thought I was. How naive I was. I got a
> wheel and have seen the true light. Perhaps there are some racing
> protgs out there that can tear up a track with a joystick but for most
> mortals to get great lap times a wheel is where its at. After 40 laps or
> so and a bit of controller tweaking I easily beat my joystick lap times
> by .2 sec. Still have a ways to go but I'm down to 38.2's now. :)

> The wheel I have is borrowed (its a Thrustmaster GrandPrix1 with
> brake/gas paddles on the wheel) and will need to buy my own.  I don't
> need or want force feedback. Any recommendations for a wheel that works
> well and is under say $60?

Jan Verschuere

Jeez, wheel is much faster than joystick

by Jan Verschuere » Tue, 16 Jan 2001 04:39:46

Oh yes you do.... and get one with proper pedals too.

Jan. ;-)
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kay..

Jeez, wheel is much faster than joystick

by kay.. » Tue, 16 Jan 2001 04:35:14

That is strange.  For me, I got better lap times with my Gravis
Xterminator gamepad.  I'm just not going as fast with a wheel setup.
Plus a wheel doesn't let me do the quick turns like a gamepad.  But I
want realism when I'm playing racing games so I definitely prefer the
wheel.  It's more fun.  

I got the MS Sidewinder Racing Wheel.  Got it for $69CAN after rebate.
That's like $45-50US.  The Act Labs RS looks good.  And you can buy
the wicked shifter for it too.  I was leaning towards the Thrustmaster
Nascar Pro Digital 2 but it took up too much room so I went with the
MS.  Get like a cheap $10 joystick and use it as the gearshift and
you're set.


>I've been hooked by the N4 demo and was using my joystick fairly
>successfully with it, least I thought I was. How naive I was. I got a
>wheel and have seen the true light. Perhaps there are some racing
>protgs out there that can tear up a track with a joystick but for most
>mortals to get great lap times a wheel is where its at. After 40 laps or
>so and a bit of controller tweaking I easily beat my joystick lap times
>by .2 sec. Still have a ways to go but I'm down to 38.2's now. :)

>The wheel I have is borrowed (its a Thrustmaster GrandPrix1 with
>brake/gas paddles on the wheel) and will need to buy my own.  I don't
>need or want force feedback. Any recommendations for a wheel that works
>well and is under say $60?

Phillip Malphrus, Jr

Jeez, wheel is much faster than joystick

by Phillip Malphrus, Jr » Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:56:32

Yes you do! Let me tell you my little FF story with N4. With the TM NasPro
Digital2 I was running 182's and 183's with the setup off of
precision-racing.com. I said, God only knows how the guys at that site could
run 185 there. Well, I decided to put on my Logitech Wingman Formula Force
USB wheel and I went out with the same setup and ran a 185 on lap 3. LOL!
Then I said, let's go to the garage and I might can get a little more out of
it seeing it was a little loose for me. Well, I went into the garage and
come to find out I was running the default setup that came with the demo.
LOL! Get FF! If you HAVE to buy a wheel for less than $60 you should go with
the TM Nascar Pro Digital 2. Love it for the older games but not GPL and
definitelty not for N4 now!

Phillip Malphrus, Jr.


> I don't need or want force feedback. Any recommendations for a wheel that
works
> well and is under say $60?

Todd Walke

Jeez, wheel is much faster than joystick

by Todd Walke » Tue, 16 Jan 2001 14:30:30

I just replaced my aging TM wheel with a Logitech Wingman Formula GP
(non-FF) that I bought at Office Depot for $50. Works great!

Todd

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> I've been hooked by the N4 demo and was using my joystick fairly
> successfully with it, least I thought I was. How naive I was. I got a
> wheel and have seen the true light. Perhaps there are some racing
> protgs out there that can tear up a track with a joystick but for most
> mortals to get great lap times a wheel is where its at. After 40 laps or
> so and a bit of controller tweaking I easily beat my joystick lap times
> by .2 sec. Still have a ways to go but I'm down to 38.2's now. :)

> The wheel I have is borrowed (its a Thrustmaster GrandPrix1 with
> brake/gas paddles on the wheel) and will need to buy my own.  I don't
> need or want force feedback. Any recommendations for a wheel that works
> well and is under say $60?

Disgruntled Go

Jeez, wheel is much faster than joystick

by Disgruntled Go » Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:49:28


>I've been hooked by the N4 demo and was using my joystick fairly
>successfully with it, least I thought I was. How naive I was. I got a
>wheel and have seen the true light. Perhaps there are some racing
>protgs out there that can tear up a track with a joystick but for most
>mortals to get great lap times a wheel is where its at. After 40 laps or
>so and a bit of controller tweaking I easily beat my joystick lap times
>by .2 sec. Still have a ways to go but I'm down to 38.2's now. :)

>The wheel I have is borrowed (its a Thrustmaster GrandPrix1 with
>brake/gas paddles on the wheel) and will need to buy my own.  I don't
>need or want force feedback. Any recommendations for a wheel that works
>well and is under say $60?

I've been very happy with my Logitech Wingman Formula (non-FF, I
believe it has a new name now but is essentially the same - it's the
yellow one, not red). Having never used another wheel I don't know how
it compares to the high end models, but I can't afford them and this
thing suits me just fine.

DG

Luke Phillip

Jeez, wheel is much faster than joystick

by Luke Phillip » Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:36:57

If u use a gamepad u should just use the keyboard. Both are digital and i
feel they are useless.

Luke
-=87=-

> That is strange.  For me, I got better lap times with my Gravis
> Xterminator gamepad.  I'm just not going as fast with a wheel setup.
> Plus a wheel doesn't let me do the quick turns like a gamepad.  But I
> want realism when I'm playing racing games so I definitely prefer the
> wheel.  It's more fun.

> I got the MS Sidewinder Racing Wheel.  Got it for $69CAN after rebate.
> That's like $45-50US.  The Act Labs RS looks good.  And you can buy
> the wicked shifter for it too.  I was leaning towards the Thrustmaster
> Nascar Pro Digital 2 but it took up too much room so I went with the
> MS.  Get like a cheap $10 joystick and use it as the gearshift and
> you're set.


> >I've been hooked by the N4 demo and was using my joystick fairly
> >successfully with it, least I thought I was. How naive I was. I got a
> >wheel and have seen the true light. Perhaps there are some racing
> >protgs out there that can tear up a track with a joystick but for most
> >mortals to get great lap times a wheel is where its at. After 40 laps or
> >so and a bit of controller tweaking I easily beat my joystick lap times
> >by .2 sec. Still have a ways to go but I'm down to 38.2's now. :)

> >The wheel I have is borrowed (its a Thrustmaster GrandPrix1 with
> >brake/gas paddles on the wheel) and will need to buy my own.  I don't
> >need or want force feedback. Any recommendations for a wheel that works
> >well and is under say $60?

kay..

Jeez, wheel is much faster than joystick

by kay.. » Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:55:47

Not the Gravis Xterminator.  It has an analog joystick and a few more
analog buttons that can be used for gas and brake.  It's got tons of
digital buttons and a digital directional pad too.  

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:36:57 +1000, "Luke Phillips"


>If u use a gamepad u should just use the keyboard. Both are digital and i
>feel they are useless.

>Luke
>-=87=-


>> That is strange.  For me, I got better lap times with my Gravis
>> Xterminator gamepad.  I'm just not going as fast with a wheel setup.
>> Plus a wheel doesn't let me do the quick turns like a gamepad.  But I
>> want realism when I'm playing racing games so I definitely prefer the
>> wheel.  It's more fun.

>> I got the MS Sidewinder Racing Wheel.  Got it for $69CAN after rebate.
>> That's like $45-50US.  The Act Labs RS looks good.  And you can buy
>> the wicked shifter for it too.  I was leaning towards the Thrustmaster
>> Nascar Pro Digital 2 but it took up too much room so I went with the
>> MS.  Get like a cheap $10 joystick and use it as the gearshift and
>> you're set.


>> >I've been hooked by the N4 demo and was using my joystick fairly
>> >successfully with it, least I thought I was. How naive I was. I got a
>> >wheel and have seen the true light. Perhaps there are some racing
>> >protgs out there that can tear up a track with a joystick but for most
>> >mortals to get great lap times a wheel is where its at. After 40 laps or
>> >so and a bit of controller tweaking I easily beat my joystick lap times
>> >by .2 sec. Still have a ways to go but I'm down to 38.2's now. :)

>> >The wheel I have is borrowed (its a Thrustmaster GrandPrix1 with
>> >brake/gas paddles on the wheel) and will need to buy my own.  I don't
>> >need or want force feedback. Any recommendations for a wheel that works
>> >well and is under say $60?


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2. N2-wheel or joystick mode for wheel users

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4. Not much faster, but it SOUNDS faster..removed the airbox resonator......

5. joystick problems with y-cable (can't read buttons on joystick 2)

6. Faster Faster!

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8. Wheel offset on 16" Trans AM wheels

9. Joystick vs. Steering Wheel

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