rec.autos.simulators

> I spoke too soon!  Yes, of course, the *proper* Monza (cum oval) was tops on
> everybody's list of must-have tracks.  During GPL's beta phase, I begged
> Papy to include this historically indispensible track.  I was rebuffed on 2
> counts: it wasn't period-correct ("But what abt. Rouen?" I sputtered) and in
> any case, it wasn't technically feasible.  Not quite...altho there are still
> some quirks.

> Since Bubba Jones' Milano was released 3 years ago, we've had a kinda-sorta
> full Monza, but anyway Bubba never laid claim to pin-point historical
> accuracy (it was more of a 1920s theme).  John Basara's magnificent "Monza
> 10k"--the approx. length of the combined circuit--is the real deal.  Grab it
> at http://www.dixierunners.speedgeezers.com/monza10k/.

> It looks as good as any Papy track--actually better than any of the
> originals--and it drives just like the cars from the movie "Grand Prix"
> (plenty of bumps on the banking...and glamorous pulchritude in the pits).
> The cars from the 1965 GPL mod should be even better.

> When I talked to John Frankenheimer about doing a book about "Grand Prix,"
> he was enthused about the idea of a Special Edition of GPL that would have
> backdated the cars (Yamura, Manetta, etc.), and included the tracks in the
> movie (i.e., Clermont-Ferrand and the full version of Monza) and drivers
> (Aron, Sarti, Stoddard, et al.).  He also promised to go to bat with the
> studio to get "Grand Prix" released on DVD.  Sadly, he died before I could
> depose his treasure trove of anecdotes, and the book died with him.

> John Basara's Monza 10k lives, however, and in a fitting tribute to "Grand
> Prix," its poster is the program cover.

> Well done, John!

> Seriously, I have been waiting and waiting for this masterpiece.  GPL for
me
> is all about the old, wonderful, never to happen again type of tracks.

> Bravo to all involved!

> Marc

> > Monza - An Appreciation

> > I spoke too soon!  Yes, of course, the *proper* Monza (cum oval) was
tops
> > on
> > everybody's list of must-have tracks.  During GPL's beta phase, I begged
> > Papy to include this historically indispensible track.  I was rebuffed
on
> > 2
> > counts: it wasn't period-correct ("But what abt. Rouen?" I sputtered)
and
> > in
> > any case, it wasn't technically feasible.  Not quite...altho there are
> > still
> > some quirks.

> > Since Bubba Jones' Milano was released 3 years ago, we've had a
> > kinda-sorta
> > full Monza, but anyway Bubba never laid claim to pin-point historical
> > accuracy (it was more of a 1920s theme).  John Basara's magnificent
"Monza
> > 10k"--the approx. length of the combined circuit--is the real deal.
Grab
> > it
> > at http://www.dixierunners.speedgeezers.com/monza10k/.

> > It looks as good as any Papy track--actually better than any of the
> > originals--and it drives just like the cars from the movie "Grand Prix"
> > (plenty of bumps on the banking...and glamorous pulchritude in the
pits).
> > The cars from the 1965 GPL mod should be even better.

> > When I talked to John Frankenheimer about doing a book about "Grand
Prix,"
> > he was enthused about the idea of a Special Edition of GPL that would
have
> > backdated the cars (Yamura, Manetta, etc.), and included the tracks in
the
> > movie (i.e., Clermont-Ferrand and the full version of Monza) and drivers
> > (Aron, Sarti, Stoddard, et al.).  He also promised to go to bat with the
> > studio to get "Grand Prix" released on DVD.  Sadly, he died before I
could
> > depose his treasure trove of anecdotes, and the book died with him.

> > John Basara's Monza 10k lives, however, and in a fitting tribute to
"Grand
> > Prix," its poster is the program cover.

> > Well done, John!

> "I spoke too soon!"

> ;o)

>> I thought you just told us now that Tripoli was out, all the track
> builders
>> could pack up and go home?? :)

>> Seriously, I have been waiting and waiting for this masterpiece.  GPL for
> me
>> is all about the old, wonderful, never to happen again type of tracks.

>> Bravo to all involved!

>> Marc

>> > Monza - An Appreciation

>> > I spoke too soon!  Yes, of course, the *proper* Monza (cum oval) was
> tops
>> > on
>> > everybody's list of must-have tracks.  During GPL's beta phase, I
>> > begged
>> > Papy to include this historically indispensible track.  I was rebuffed
> on
>> > 2
>> > counts: it wasn't period-correct ("But what abt. Rouen?" I sputtered)
> and
>> > in
>> > any case, it wasn't technically feasible.  Not quite...altho there are
>> > still
>> > some quirks.

>> > Since Bubba Jones' Milano was released 3 years ago, we've had a
>> > kinda-sorta
>> > full Monza, but anyway Bubba never laid claim to pin-point historical
>> > accuracy (it was more of a 1920s theme).  John Basara's magnificent
> "Monza
>> > 10k"--the approx. length of the combined circuit--is the real deal.
> Grab
>> > it
>> > at http://www.dixierunners.speedgeezers.com/monza10k/.

>> > It looks as good as any Papy track--actually better than any of the
>> > originals--and it drives just like the cars from the movie "Grand Prix"
>> > (plenty of bumps on the banking...and glamorous pulchritude in the
> pits).
>> > The cars from the 1965 GPL mod should be even better.

>> > When I talked to John Frankenheimer about doing a book about "Grand
> Prix,"
>> > he was enthused about the idea of a Special Edition of GPL that would
> have
>> > backdated the cars (Yamura, Manetta, etc.), and included the tracks in
> the
>> > movie (i.e., Clermont-Ferrand and the full version of Monza) and
>> > drivers
>> > (Aron, Sarti, Stoddard, et al.).  He also promised to go to bat with
>> > the
>> > studio to get "Grand Prix" released on DVD.  Sadly, he died before I
> could
>> > depose his treasure trove of anecdotes, and the book died with him.

>> > John Basara's Monza 10k lives, however, and in a fitting tribute to
> "Grand
>> > Prix," its poster is the program cover.

>> > Well done, John!